Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not talking about telling them what to do, I'm talking about responsibility. You put them here, if they do bad things, it is your fault. Who elses responsibility is it? No ones! So if you lost the plot snapped had a nervouse breakdown whatever and whent on a killing spree are you saying it would be your parents fault ??? ...... Not fault mate no, responsibilty, yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 29,662 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 Blimey what a question........im the first to admit i was a complete f**k up as a parent....but id like to think as a reasonably decent human being id have to bite the bullet and deal with them the way youd deal with any other sicko,right is right and wrong is wrong regardless of blood.....but certainly a damn good thought provoking topic. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not talking about telling them what to do, I'm talking about responsibility. You put them here, if they do bad things, it is your fault. Who elses responsibility is it? No ones! we are here to breed and rear them and care for them untill they are adults. after that they are responsible for there actions . i would turn mine in same as i would anyone elses. becouse its the right thing to do. not becouse i felt responsible. becouse ive done all in my power to teach them right from wrong. mine are all grown . i love them but i'm not responsible for them any more 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not talking about telling them what to do, I'm talking about responsibility. You put them here, if they do bad things, it is your fault. Who elses responsibility is it? No ones! So if you lost the plot snapped had a nervouse breakdown whatever and whent on a killing spree are you saying it would be your parents fault ??? ...... Not fault mate no, responsibilty, yes. I can't accept that either mate ... If two parents have brought up a kid in a loving stable happy home and taught them right from wrong and given them guidance on how to behave correctly in the world and socially interacted them with the world and as an adult the said child is just bad and does bad things then the parents can't be held responsible surely ??? Some people are just bad and nobody knows why .......... 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
walshie 2,804 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm no expert but I think that if you bring them up properly from the word go, then the situation wouldn't arise. I don't belive people are born evil. They are like blank sheets of paper absorbing everything you do and say. My father wasn't a one for lectures, but he did tell me that if he could teach me wrong from right, then I could work out the rest for myself. Words I try to live by with my boy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leegreen 2,100 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 My kids wouldn't be in that situation, full stop. I know. But given the scenario, I would make them hand them selves in. Obviously I would be completely devastated/gutted. But if need be I would flick the switch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not talking about telling them what to do, I'm talking about responsibility. You put them here, if they do bad things, it is your fault. Who elses responsibility is it? No ones! So if you lost the plot snapped had a nervouse breakdown whatever and whent on a killing spree are you saying it would be your parents fault ??? ...... Not fault mate no, responsibilty, yes. I can't accept that either mate ... If two parents have brought up a kid in a loving stable happy home and taught them right from wrong and given them guidance on how to behave correctly in the world and socially interacted them with the world and as an adult the said child is just bad and does bad things then the parents can't be held responsible surely ??? Some people are just bad and nobody knows why .......... Maybe not, but it would be your responsibility to make sure your offspring pays for his crimes and that he/she never does anything as evil as doing something to a child again. I believe that would be a parents responsibility no matter how old their son/daughter is. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not talking about telling them what to do, I'm talking about responsibility. You put them here, if they do bad things, it is your fault. Who elses responsibility is it? No ones! So if you lost the plot snapped had a nervouse breakdown whatever and whent on a killing spree are you saying it would be your parents fault ??? ...... Not fault mate no, responsibilty, yes. I can't accept that either mate ... If two parents have brought up a kid in a loving stable happy home and taught them right from wrong and given them guidance on how to behave correctly in the world and socially interacted them with the world and as an adult the said child is just bad and does bad things then the parents can't be held responsible surely ??? Some people are just bad and nobody knows why .......... Maybe not, but it would be your responsibility to make sure your offspring pays for his crimes and that he/she never does anything as evil as doing something to a child again. I believe that would be a parents responsibility no matter how old their son/daughter is. And as I said earlier I would shop them ..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not talking about telling them what to do, I'm talking about responsibility. You put them here, if they do bad things, it is your fault. Who elses responsibility is it? No ones! So if you lost the plot snapped had a nervouse breakdown whatever and whent on a killing spree are you saying it would be your parents fault ??? ...... Not fault mate no, responsibilty, yes. I can't accept that either mate ... If two parents have brought up a kid in a loving stable happy home and taught them right from wrong and given them guidance on how to behave correctly in the world and socially interacted them with the world and as an adult the said child is just bad and does bad things then the parents can't be held responsible surely ??? Some people are just bad and nobody knows why .......... Maybe not, but it would be your responsibility to make sure your offspring pays for his crimes and that he/she never does anything as evil as doing something to a child again. I believe that would be a parents responsibility no matter how old their son/daughter is. And as I said earlier I would shop them ..... Yeah because it's your responsibility wouldn't you say mate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kay 3,709 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I think the only people that can genuinely answer such a question are parents of murderers , i dont think someone wakes up monday morning & decides to murder & mutilate there & then without something in there history, warning signs etc , I guess its a steady progression & its thought that animal abuse is linked to what eventually becomes murder Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not talking about telling them what to do, I'm talking about responsibility. You put them here, if they do bad things, it is your fault. Who elses responsibility is it? No ones! So if you lost the plot snapped had a nervouse breakdown whatever and whent on a killing spree are you saying it would be your parents fault ??? ...... Not fault mate no, responsibilty, yes. I can't accept that either mate ... If two parents have brought up a kid in a loving stable happy home and taught them right from wrong and given them guidance on how to behave correctly in the world and socially interacted them with the world and as an adult the said child is just bad and does bad things then the parents can't be held responsible surely ??? Some people are just bad and nobody knows why .......... Maybe not, but it would be your responsibility to make sure your offspring pays for his crimes and that he/she never does anything as evil as doing something to a child again. I believe that would be a parents responsibility no matter how old their son/daughter is. And as I said earlier I would shop them ..... Yeah because it's your responsibility wouldn't you say mate? It's your responsibility as a human being mate not just as a parent ... Otherwise as I said you are as bad as them ......... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 I'm not talking about telling them what to do, I'm talking about responsibility. You put them here, if they do bad things, it is your fault. Who elses responsibility is it? No ones! So if you lost the plot snapped had a nervouse breakdown whatever and whent on a killing spree are you saying it would be your parents fault ??? ...... Not fault mate no, responsibilty, yes. I can't accept that either mate ... If two parents have brought up a kid in a loving stable happy home and taught them right from wrong and given them guidance on how to behave correctly in the world and socially interacted them with the world and as an adult the said child is just bad and does bad things then the parents can't be held responsible surely ??? Some people are just bad and nobody knows why .......... Maybe not, but it would be your responsibility to make sure your offspring pays for his crimes and that he/she never does anything as evil as doing something to a child again. I believe that would be a parents responsibility no matter how old their son/daughter is. And as I said earlier I would shop them ..... Yeah because it's your responsibility wouldn't you say mate? its his responsability if they are his. mine or yours as a responsable adult. you cant educate wood Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socks 32,253 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 My missus watches the crime channel constantly especially the serial killers and psychopaths and there is a lot of evidence these days to suggest that these people have a chemical imbalance in their brain that normal people don't have and it pre disposes them to murder ... They feel no empathy or regret for what they do ... True that most show signs when young of being cruel and heartless but some are perfect kids that go on to gain top qualifications and marry and raise kids then one day they just change and carry out the most horrible of crimes .......... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cleanspade 3,322 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 My kids wouldn't be in that situation, full stop. I know. But given the scenario, I would make them hand them selves in. Obviously I would be completely devastated/gutted. But if need be I would flick the switch. how could anyone know 100%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
leegreen 2,100 Posted February 12, 2013 Report Share Posted February 12, 2013 My kids wouldn't be in that situation, full stop. I know. But given the scenario, I would make them hand them selves in. Obviously I would be completely devastated/gutted. But if need be I would flick the switch. how could anyone know 100%. I am a very involved father, I know. The input of right and wrong plays a key roll in a child's upbringing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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