tilfertilfer 706 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 too be 100% true mate i could not recall any of my dogs be it terrier or lurcher and if i could i would seriously dowt the ablity of that dog,once you train a dog to hunt that is what the dog should do to its upmost but thats just mop atb mel Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I use a whistle Try to train recall early, using the spaniel as a guide. He seems to heed it quite well, although in full flight you might push to get him back on it. He`s kinda a hang aboot till theres somit to chase dug anyway Lee,, what pup bud ?? Quote Link to post
BEARINATOR 2,921 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Depends if I'm out on permission or at work, at work I like to keep an eye on them but don't mind as much when I'm just mooching about Quote Link to post
freelance 448 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I hate it when a dog has been taken out of sight, i soon get that sick feeling in my stomach until they return, its even worse with terriers, as it can be hours.......... I agree, years and years ago before the ban. There was nothing worse than being out with the dazzler on somewhere you really shouldn't be and running stuff that will take your dog a wee bit further than your average mr bunny. Its a horrible sickening feeling in your stomach when the dog doesn't return and you cant hear any sigh of contact and its silent, really is not nice at all . Funnily enough was just talking about this subject with a mate yesterday while we was walking the pot lickers, and to some it up i care for my dog a lot and really don't like it when he goes out of sight but unfortunately that's just the part and parcel of the dogging game Atb 2 Quote Link to post
Mooching Celt 659 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 A short while ago i was letting the terriers bush about in a bramble and gorse patch where there is always a few bunnys hopping around, Me stood in the middle with a lurcher on either side when ol' charlie appears at my feet, no worries i thought as the big dog was in prime position but what i didn't know was he'd dived into the brambles after it aswell and couldn't get out quick enough. Heard one terrier sreaming like a banshee away up the hill but managed to catch the younger one up. Walked up in the direction they'd all gone to be greeted by one lurcher returning, then the other but no terrier. 2 1/2 fecking hours later and quite by chance my father happened to be driving through a village a couple of miles away and picked the little shit up hassling a woman with a couple of dogs. The thing is he'd crossed a couple of main roads to get where he was, god only knows how far he'd hunted charlie for and i was lucky to get him back as he had no i.d. on him. The worst thing was the little git didn't even seem relieved to see me again Gut wrenching stuff when you haven't a clue where they have gone Quote Link to post
Carraghs Gem 1,699 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Im sure ive read somewhere that the yanks have a kind of tracking device on some dogs as some kinds of hunting they do the dogs can be out of sight for hours Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,837 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I don't have that problem anymore now I've not got the mental whippet but had a lot of times losing her. In the dark somewhere you shouldn't be shouting a dog is a arse twitcher too. Couple of times I gave up and was off to bed but always seemed to find her at the last minute, looking back it would have saved me lots of headaches if I hadn't found the mad b*****d. Quote Link to post
skycat 6,174 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Cost a lot of money: gps tracking devices. If I lived near forestry I'd be investing in some: I get twitchy if they're out of sight more than a couple of minutes: once you've searched for, and found, a dead dog you tend to think the worst. I remember looking for my OH/s bitch once for nearly two hours: eventually found her dead from a broken neck within a 100 yards of where we'd last seen her, hidden in a dip in the ground in some thistles. She still had fur in her mouth from the rabbit she'd struck at. I lost one in a similar way too: broken back all from running a poxy rabbit. It's a dangerous world for a fast dog. Quote Link to post
leegreen 2,250 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 You should all train your dogs a bit better........ no seriously it's a proper worry. It's much worse with dogs I find, that's one of the reasons I like mainly bitches. My bitches hunt at different ranges, which suits me fine. If my Bull x goes out of sight on a rabbit, she will either catch it or it will go to ground and she will return. If she goes missing for a good while I have to stay put and call. She will return when what ever she is doing is done. She so far at the ripe old age of 4 1/2 never hunted on for ages, so I guess I am lucky or an expert dog man . Now I recently acquired a Lakeland/Spaniel X which is turning out to be a great little bitch at the age of 10 months. She has done pretty much every thing you could ask from such a dog. She has always shown an interest in holes as I have taken her ferreting and she works fox to the gun. About 4-5 weeks ago we doing a drive for a gamekeeper friend and she had her nose to the ground hunting hard as something had just passed trough. I watched her at about 20 meters go straight down a hole, . I looked expecting her to come back out and she didn't . Straight over to the hole listened and could here baying, bollocks! I called and called and nothing. I sat there for over an hour and a half waiting/calling/listening, thinking this is the end of my fantastic little bushing bitch as now she has turned into exactly what I didn't want a ground dog. Anyway I have now sorted it and she shows interest in holes but won't enter, thank feck! My main point about the Spaniel/Terrier x is that when terriers go missing, I think it can be a lot more worrying. And Ideation you want a bushing dog? With that whippet and a bushing dog you'll be grey before you know it . Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,793 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 You should all train your dogs a bit better........ no seriously it's a proper worry. It's much worse with dogs I find, that's one of the reasons I like mainly bitches. My bitches hunt at different ranges, which suits me fine. If my Bull x goes out of sight on a rabbit, she will either catch it or it will go to ground and she will return. If she goes missing for a good while I have to stay put and call. She will return when what ever she is doing is done. She so far at the ripe old age of 4 1/2 never hunted on for ages, so I guess I am lucky or an expert dog man . Now I recently acquired a Lakeland/Spaniel X which is turning out to be a great little bitch at the age of 10 months. She has done pretty much every thing you could ask from such a dog. She has always shown an interest in holes as I have taken her ferreting and she works fox to the gun. About 4-5 weeks ago we doing a drive for a gamekeeper friend and she had her nose to the ground hunting hard as something had just passed trough. I watched her at about 20 meters go straight down a hole, . I looked expecting her to come back out and she didn't . Straight over to the hole listened and could here baying, bollocks! I called and called and nothing. I sat there for over an hour and a half waiting/calling/listening, thinking this is the end of my fantastic little bushing bitch as now she has turned into exactly what I didn't want a ground dog. Anyway I have now sorted it and she shows interest in holes but won't enter, thank feck! My main point about the Spaniel/Terrier x is that when terriers go missing, I think it can be a lot more worrying. And Ideation you want a bushing dog? With that whippet and a bushing dog you'll be grey before you know it . I was thinking exactly the same Mine also come straight out when game is lost. Unfortunately here the woods are full so when they lose one they find another and so on. One of my old lurchers chased a hare in a field, good long run and eventually ended up in the woods, 5 mins later he was out and making his way back to me.....another hare lifted, same scenario. Then would you believe it it happened a 3rd time.....massive torn gracillis later and he never worked again! Quote Link to post
blue staffy 145 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 my old dog used to disapear now and again when out in the forestry used to spend hours looking for him only to find him sitting at the van waiting on me getting back , twice he ended up at police station due to tree huggers thinking he was stray and then there was the time a rather angry farmer came charging up to me on his quad to tell me that skip was hanging out the back of his collie that he was planing on lineing with some champion sheep dog Quote Link to post
The one 8,589 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 I dont have a problem with it ,on a normal walk the lurcher will be 100-150 yards in front in case the spaniel and lab put something up and she is straight on to it . after a course she returns back and yesterday in a wood,three pips on the whistle and she was back after a course Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 You should all train your dogs a bit better........ no seriously it's a proper worry. It's much worse with dogs I find, that's one of the reasons I like mainly bitches. My bitches hunt at different ranges, which suits me fine. If my Bull x goes out of sight on a rabbit, she will either catch it or it will go to ground and she will return. If she goes missing for a good while I have to stay put and call. She will return when what ever she is doing is done. She so far at the ripe old age of 4 1/2 never hunted on for ages, so I guess I am lucky or an expert dog man . Now I recently acquired a Lakeland/Spaniel X which is turning out to be a great little bitch at the age of 10 months. She has done pretty much every thing you could ask from such a dog. She has always shown an interest in holes as I have taken her ferreting and she works fox to the gun. About 4-5 weeks ago we doing a drive for a gamekeeper friend and she had her nose to the ground hunting hard as something had just passed trough. I watched her at about 20 meters go straight down a hole, . I looked expecting her to come back out and she didn't . Straight over to the hole listened and could here baying, bollocks! I called and called and nothing. I sat there for over an hour and a half waiting/calling/listening, thinking this is the end of my fantastic little bushing bitch as now she has turned into exactly what I didn't want a ground dog. Anyway I have now sorted it and she shows interest in holes but won't enter, thank feck! My main point about the Spaniel/Terrier x is that when terriers go missing, I think it can be a lot more worrying. And Ideation you want a bushing dog? With that whippet and a bushing dog you'll be grey before you know it . I was thinking exactly the same Mine also come straight out when game is lost. Unfortunately here the woods are full so when they lose one they find another and so on. One of my old lurchers chased a hare in a field, good long run and eventually ended up in the woods, 5 mins later he was out and making his way back to me.....another hare lifted, same scenario. Then would you believe it it happened a 3rd time.....massive torn gracillis later and he never worked again! have the same problem von its a nightmare at times, like now im trying to bring a dog back from an injury as you know but im always shit scared its going to happen again before ive got him back to fitness Quote Link to post
Moll. 1,793 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Accidents will happen, as long as you take all precautions possible, nowt else you can do Paul. Can you not get a treadmill, they are ideal for situations like this, you get them fit without the fear of anything happening before fully fit enough to cope with it. Quote Link to post
paulus 26 Posted May 6, 2012 Report Share Posted May 6, 2012 Accidents will happen, as long as you take all precautions possible, nowt else you can do Paul. Can you not get a treadmill, they are ideal for situations like this, you get them fit without the fear of anything happening before fully fit enough to cope with it. the thought had crossed my mind Quote Link to post
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