scothunter 12,609 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I don't have any children but if I knew that I was about to and they had a terrible illness that would make there life a constant battle then I would seriously consider a termination. I have a cousin who daughter has downs and a good friend with a daughter with downs and it's a difficult lifestyle for them. There's some cruel people 'in' the world and if someone was to ridicule your child in the street because if there illness I think you may do time!! that kinda of talk better not get back to the vatican. on a serious note though,i dont have kids either.to selfish and set in my ways for that.the idea of kids would scare me shitless.far to much repsonsibility for someone like me.fair doos to the couples who do just get there heads down and learn to cope with it.i dont know but i would imagine a kid with special needs would put an enormous strain on a marridge aswell.take my hat of to them though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TOMO 28,163 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 what a good thread this is,,, i was dubiouse when i read judges first post , but its nice to see how people have delt with things. my ex worked for mencap and regularly brought home residents from the care home she worked at,, they had all kinds of learning difuclties including some with downs, it was a good experiance for me , and the thing all you guys said was on the money ,, i soon lerned to talk to them and interact the same as any one else. it could somtimes be amusing to watch my mates if they were at our house at the same time . you could see my mates would be very uncomfortable, but they soon lerned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,848 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 what a good thread this is,,, i was dubiouse when i read judges first post , but its nice to see how people have delt with things. my ex worked for mencap and regularly brought home residents from the care home she worked at,, they had all kinds of learning difuclties including some with downs, it was a good experiance for me , and the thing all you guys said was on the money ,, i soon lerned to talk to them and interact the same as any one else. it could somtimes be amusing to watch my mates if they were at our house at the same time . you could see my mates would be very uncomfortable, but they soon lerned. Used to be even worse upto the 90's then people started to change. I've been told although don't know for certain that in America it is still a culturaly taboo subject and that they hide disabilities away in institutions same as it used to be in the UK. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FightTheBan 1,147 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Did anyone ever see the documentary about disabled kids in romania? Had the locked away in cages like animals. It was very disturbing. Hats off to anyone who has the mental strength and determination to raise a handicaped child. It must be one of the most difficult (although I would imagine rewarding) things to do in life. FTB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Did anyone ever see the documentary about disabled kids in romania? Had the locked away in cages like animals. It was very disturbing. Hats off to anyone who has the mental strength and determination to raise a handicaped child. It must be one of the most difficult (although I would imagine rewarding) things to do in life. FTB dunno about the romanian one,but i saw a mental home in bulgaria a few year back.only fron the outside very disturbing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mushroom 13,848 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Saw it and it was sickening and heartbreaking Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dytkos 17,914 Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 My daughter was born with a severly deformed knee. She'd had 14 operations and spent almost 2 years of her life in a wheelchair with one ot those cages on her leg by the time she was 13. It was difficult for us but not a life long struggle as some on her have had and are having now. She's the proud mother of twins and only walks with a very slight limp now. Hats off big style to anyone who has the love, understanding, compassion and I believe patience to be a life long carer for anyone of their family. As has been stated earlier, some newly discovered respect to some of the earlier posters. :notworthy: Cheers, D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) Did anyone ever see the documentary about disabled kids in romania? Had the locked away in cages like animals. It was very disturbing. Hats off to anyone who has the mental strength and determination to raise a handicaped child. It must be one of the most difficult (although I would imagine rewarding) things to do in life. FTB dunno about the romanian one,but i saw a mental home in bulgaria a few year back.only fron the outside very disturbing. How sad was that mate. That really had an impact on me, the way them poor kids were treated and forced to go insane. The big mute lad Milan I think his name is, was copping the odd slap off that shit head carer. Really upsetting that was. Bulgaria's abandoned children I think it was. This is the link to the doc for anyone interested in watching it - Edited September 13, 2011 by Attack Fell Terrier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 Did anyone ever see the documentary about disabled kids in romania? Had the locked away in cages like animals. It was very disturbing. Hats off to anyone who has the mental strength and determination to raise a handicaped child. It must be one of the most difficult (although I would imagine rewarding) things to do in life. FTB dunno about the romanian one,but i saw a mental home in bulgaria a few year back.only fron the outside very disturbing. How sad was that mate. That really had an impact on me, the way them poor kids were treated and forced to go insane. The big mute lad Milan I think his name is, was copping the odd slap off that shit head carer. Really upsetting that was. Bulgaria's abandoned children I think it was. This is the link to the doc for anyone interested in watching it - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1V53U3XHOA i watched it aswell mate,but i was on holiday in bulgaria few year back,well im not one for sitting about in the sun,i went to diffrent places,had a taxi driver who was like our own personal chaffeur lol used to wait on us while we went to diffrent towns and stuff,anyway walked for miles one day alog a beach,went up on this hill and what i thought was an abanded school.turned out to be some instution fro the insane/special needs call it what you like.my mates bird was in tears.kinda felt like shit myself.if you had seen these people.the carers were sitting about smoking fags in the garden and drinking beer.there were kids of all ages fell.teenage lads and lassies sitting about with what clothes they did have on we wouldnt have used them for rags.callous thing to say but they would be better of dead,when you come back from a holiday your meant to feel good,certainly wasnt the case for me.oh the tourist places are up to date,but you only have to walk into the areas where the locals live,to think you have been transported back into communist russia.like east berlin before the wall came down.im sure some of those poor wretches with responsible care and medication wouldnt have been the sunken eyed zombies we saw that day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andyfr1968 772 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 (edited) Reading some of the posts on this thread really makes me realise how lucky I am to have two healthy happy boys. I honestly can't say how I'd have reacted if I'd have found out that they had potential issues before birth, it's got to be the most heart breaking decission any would be parent can make and I've a huge amount of respect for those who have to cope with any kind of special needs kids. I remember seeing the documentary mentioned above and it litterally brought tears to my eyes, so very sad and has been mentioned many of those poor souls would probably be living fairly normal lives given the proper medication. Edited September 13, 2011 by andyfr1968 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rake aboot 4,936 Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 I am one of those types that tries to see the best in all kids,, disabled or not, I can`t imagine doing anything but loving ANY of mine regardless of their circumstances.. I am a wimp with kids though,, I cant watch ill kids on the TV cause I crack like a child,, totally destroyed just watching kids in pain,,, I count myself very lucky to have healthy children and grandchildren and take my hat off to to those with more difficult lives I would never condemn anyone for their choices though,,, walk in another mans shoes and all that Atb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ulverston moocher 60 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I have 3 kids 2 sons and a daughter, my youngest son was born normal then some stupid f*****g idiot mid wife force fed him a bottle and instead of it going in his stomach she filled his lungs and he had to be revived and then put on a ventalator for a week he pulled through ok in the end but 12 months later we noticed he wasnt using his right hand side at all and was diagnosed with cerebral paulsy (sorry about the spelling its shit) he hasnt been effected mentaly just phisicaly but he now has to go for physio they looked into what happened to him with the feeding and said that it had nothing to do with his cerebal paulsey it was a stroke in the womb that caused it any how they said he woudnt walk and he does he runs climbes and uses his his right leg and hand (not so much there very stiff and awkward for him but he is getting there) he gets treated no different to my outher two and is made to do stuff for him self they said he might have to go in a school that caters for his needs more and they were told to f**k off in no uncertain terms now he is 2 and you can hardly tell apart from the lack of use in his right hand and a slight limp. I am a big beliver in treat them different and people will treat them as different treat them as normal and they will act normal and be treated as such. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scent 509 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I have 3 kids 2 sons and a daughter, my youngest son was born normal then some stupid f*****g idiot mid wife force fed him a bottle and instead of it going in his stomach she filled his lungs and he had to be revived and then put on a ventalator for a week he pulled through ok in the end but 12 months later we noticed he wasnt using his right hand side at all and was diagnosed with cerebral paulsy (sorry about the spelling its shit) he hasnt been effected mentaly just phisicaly but he now has to go for physio they looked into what happened to him with the feeding and said that it had nothing to do with his cerebal paulsey it was a stroke in the womb that caused it any how they said he woudnt walk and he does he runs climbes and uses his his right leg and hand (not so much there very stiff and awkward for him but he is getting there) he gets treated no different to my outher two and is made to do stuff for him self they said he might have to go in a school that caters for his needs more and they were told to f**k off in no uncertain terms now he is 2 and you can hardly tell apart from the lack of use in his right hand and a slight limp. I am a big beliver in treat them different and people will treat them as different treat them as normal and they will act normal and be treated as such. thats the same as my daughter but she has it in her left side of her body .The hospitals will never accept responsibility .All the best in the future and with the physio pal Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ulverston moocher 60 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 I have 3 kids 2 sons and a daughter, my youngest son was born normal then some stupid f*****g idiot mid wife force fed him a bottle and instead of it going in his stomach she filled his lungs and he had to be revived and then put on a ventalator for a week he pulled through ok in the end but 12 months later we noticed he wasnt using his right hand side at all and was diagnosed with cerebral paulsy (sorry about the spelling its shit) he hasnt been effected mentaly just phisicaly but he now has to go for physio they looked into what happened to him with the feeding and said that it had nothing to do with his cerebal paulsey it was a stroke in the womb that caused it any how they said he woudnt walk and he does he runs climbes and uses his his right leg and hand (not so much there very stiff and awkward for him but he is getting there) he gets treated no different to my outher two and is made to do stuff for him self they said he might have to go in a school that caters for his needs more and they were told to f**k off in no uncertain terms now he is 2 and you can hardly tell apart from the lack of use in his right hand and a slight limp. I am a big beliver in treat them different and people will treat them as different treat them as normal and they will act normal and be treated as such. thats the same as my daughter but she has it in her left side of her body .The hospitals will never accept responsibility .All the best in the future and with the physio pal yeh all the best to you and yours as well mate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Born Hunter 17,907 Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 A hell of alot of respect for those of you bringing up kids with dissabilities. Seriously mean that! You're stronger people that I. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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