Times they are a changing

[just jack 998]

1,000 houses and a co-op gone up on what used to be my permission --

are you on the till now

[Guest jt750]

I wouldnt be so sure Si, there are plenty of good young lads growing up and being shown the right way of doing things.

As long as there is wild places and game, lads will continue to hunt......

 

You not think the 2 young 12 year old lads that want to be up the field with a terrier rooting out rats and rabbit for the love of it will be seen any different from a useless 15 year old c*nt with a football head size dog who has no respect and wants to just kill for killings sake will be seen any different in the public eye ? me i think not ..times they are a changing and we are all tarred with the same brush ..maybe different for us *older* guys who can maybe garner respect ..the youth of today is fooked in the field IMO

 

IMHO, It dont really matter how they are seen........they will grow older and still be doing things right and so the wheel will turn.

Its how you conduct yourself that matters and that will always shine through in the end.

 

I hope you're right mate i just don't see them having the time to prove themselves

[the_stig 6,614]

an honest days works beyond me jacko ..

[The one 8,592]

Aye it was a damm site easier for us to get gun licences etc and go out and do a bit ,dread to think of the restrictions that our kids will face about shooting ,hunting in the next ten ,fifteen years

[whin 463]

you have to move with the times and diverse saw alot of good hare land were i was brought up built on and i mewan proper open land with more hares than enough bypass saw alot of them gone alot of game round urban areas but you cant beat the solitude of living away from people in general

[FightTheBan 1,147]

If it all goes tits up in the coming years we only have ourselves to blame. Getting your hands on lurchers and terriers has become incredibly easy. Partly due to peddlers and partly due to the internet and technology. The result is they become ever more disposable and youngsters have no real appreciation for their livestock. Which imo is the downward spiral.

 

It is not just kids with dogs who have no respect it is kids in general and this has filtered through to the hunting scene.

 

Time to nip things in the bud instead of just talking about it.

 

FTB

[skycat 6,174]

Ive said it before and i'll say it again, in ten years this game will be fecked, legislation, idiots and our ever changing countryside.............

 

It's changed dramatically round here over the last 20 years. Time was I could walk back through the village with a couple of rabbits hung over my shoulder and no one even glanced my way: I'd let the dogs work the fields and take a couple of hares and there were no angry vehicles steaming after us. I lamped pretty much where I wanted and people knew I did but didn't mind: now its all about getting the permission in writing, even going so far as phoning plod and telling them where I'm parking and what my registration is.

 

There's a massive landfill site, and its been there for years now, where the old gravel pits used to be. Mind you, before the gravel pits were there it was farm land: imagine how people though of the gravel pits destroying the farm land! I liked the old gravel pits: teeming with wildlife, now its just stinking, dangerous pile of rubbish with only seagulls and crows getting the benefit. Fast forward another few years and the landfill will be returned to pasture: albeit with those bloody dangerous pipes sticking up to release the gases from decomposing rubbish: a lamper's nightmare IMO: dog running flat out on something ain't going to get up after hitting one of those vents.

 

There's still munties, foxes and rabbits here, but nothing comes out by day as there's too many dog walkers, joggers, mountain bikers.

 

The farm lands's OK, apart from the fact that the shooters now all have night vision, drive round shooting everything and leaving it where it lies for the most part: came upon a huge pile of pigeons the other day: FFS: what a waste. Dead foxes blasted to bits by high powered rifles and left to be ploughed into the ground when they come to drilling. By the time we're able to get on the land everything is mega lamp shy and hard to find. Gets worse every year. The one bit of land I have which has hares on locally, they're even shooting them from the other side of the boundary, and leaving them dead in the field, and these are the legitimate shooters: what is is with people with guns? Some of them are as bad as the dog lads who kill and leave stuff in the field: no respect, no sense, and no desire to use what they shoot. Waste, waste and more waste. :censored:

 

Rant over!

[rob190364 2,594]

There's two different issues here, one is the usual too many chavs with no respect for countryside etc.

 

But the other issue is the one people have mentioned on here. The countryside around where my parents live is supposed to be greenbelt, didn't stop them plonking a feckin massive Morrissons Warehouse and a business park there though, and consequently the massively increased number of workers in the area have resulted in new houses popping up on every spare bit of land in surrounding villages. The place where they put the Morrissons is on the bank of a once really picturesque stretch of canal, the warehouse is now literally 20 meters from the canal! They bought all the houses of people who lived there and flattened them but this one woman refused to sell hers because she'd lived there her whole life, they tried to force her through the courts but failed so built it right on top of this poor womans stunning country house. It's so sad, there's this lovely house with a massive warehouse directly opposite and a roundabout with a 24 hour constant stream of lorries going to and from the warehouse right outside her house.......whoever gave that permission to go ahead want shooting!

 

20 years ago I used to go rabbiting with my uncle on a vast area of scrubland surrounded by fields and woodland, I moved away but a couple of years ago I went back just for sentimental reasons........as I crossed a bridge to the land I was utterly gobsmacked, to the point where I thought I'd crossed the wrong bridge! It was absolutely flattened and a football ground, Renault garage and a few other businesses there. The sad fact is that when there's money on the table the welfare of the countryside is a very very low priority. I'm all for change/progress etc. but not to the extent where they're just destroying the countryside.

[iworkwhippets 13,230]

Of course times are changing, nowt remains the same forever, you just have to move with em, i have gained permission at a stud farm, plenty of bunnies, and the rest, but what a time i had in gaining this permission, the land owner has in the past had bother with lnconsiderate lurcher owners, leaving gates open, leaving trash behind, not filling in after digs, and the rest, so now he dont allow lurchers on his land, when i told him i run only whippets, he invited me onto his land to see what they are like around livestock, he was well pleased, and granted me permission, to work one whippet at a time, so this lady is of no use to me, i think what really clinched it for me, was the way in which i conducted myself, civility and manners, costs nowt, but gained me some great land to work my dogs

Edited August 30, 2011 by iworkwhippets

[deadlyshot 25]

got planning permission waiting approval on my bit of permission which took me ages to get and to be honest my only bit so that will be me out on the road looking for another bit which i tell ya not easy when there is always someone ahead of ya and getting the permission before you

[stealthy1 3,964]

Dont know where things will end up, but I'm glad I was born when I was, and if I get another 20 years doing what I love, then I'll die a happy man, the folk I bump into in the countryside these days are not from the countryside, they come from the cities, buy up all the houses that folk on low countryside wages just cant afford, they dont understand how things work, and that will be the old style countrysides downfall, all that will be left soon will be walking our dogs on a lead in nature reserves, hope someone comes up with a solution soon, or there will be no turning back the clock.

[undisputed 1,664]

If it all goes tits up in the coming years we only have ourselves to blame. Getting your hands on lurchers and terriers has become incredibly easy. Partly due to peddlers and partly due to the internet and technology. The result is they become ever more disposable and youngsters have no real appreciation for their livestock. Which imo is the downward spiral.

 

It is not just kids with dogs who have no respect it is kids in general and this has filtered through to the hunting scene.

 

Time to nip things in the bud instead of just talking about it.

 

FTB

 

The damage is already done mate I don't really see a way back unless the gov have a complete change of heart

[FightTheBan 1,147]

If it all goes tits up in the coming years we only have ourselves to blame. Getting your hands on lurchers and terriers has become incredibly easy. Partly due to peddlers and partly due to the internet and technology. The result is they become ever more disposable and youngsters have no real appreciation for their livestock. Which imo is the downward spiral.

 

It is not just kids with dogs who have no respect it is kids in general and this has filtered through to the hunting scene.

 

Time to nip things in the bud instead of just talking about it.

 

FTB

 

The damage is already done mate I don't really see a way back unless the gov have a complete change of heart

 

 

Aye but there can still be damage limitation mate.

 

We all know it will never be what it was, but things can get a lot f*****g worse very quickly if we dont start to become accountable for our actions.

I would rather deep fry a litter of pups than give them to some of the shitheads on here.

 

As fot the way the countryside is going, development isn't the biggest issue, its the buisybodies and no-gooders that seem to get EVERYWHERE at the weekends.

 

You cannot do anything without someone seeing you these days.

 

If your out doing a fair bit it isnt a case of if shit will hit the fan it's when.

 

For years small farms have been bought up by the goodlifers and horsey folk who now seem to think they own the place but in reality aint got a f*****g clue.

 

FTB

[paulus 26]

doom and gloom,doom and gloom

[artic 595]

I have to admit it's not too bad down here. We have gravel pits which still hold plenty of hares and CWD, however I can see that buildings not too far from me are being smashed down and industrial sites being knocked up. Are they slowly making there way to me....I hope not!

 

There is some waste land that hold many foxes, great to see and in the last 6 years they have been building lakes and tidying the place up bringing other wildlife into the area. I'd rather this was done than to leave it vulnerable to other users.

 

It's not all doom and gloom, the trouble is there is a housing crisis, so as a country more houses are needed, we are an expanding population of chavs, too stupid to master spelling and birth control..