What gives you the moral high ground? I shot for yrs too and you know fine well that not every shot quarry hits the ground dead and sometimes it can run on or duck under the water to try and escape, now in truth it suffers until your dog gets to it or you can get a clean 2nd shot, so how you even think hunting a fox with powerful and efficient dogs is cruel, the fox gets despatched in 2 secs or gets away clean n free. Where your miss placed shot can wound and if it gets away, fester until it dies, now cwis can you see what I’m saying? I’m sure houndsmen and women prob don’t like shooters but