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  1. Alsone
    Well I personally wouldn't take the remote risk with vermin, not with the way animal organisations can be these days, but each to their own.
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    Like I say Deker, I don't agree. I'm not going to argue with you as it's quite clear from your posts above and others I made to you in the past that you just don't get it and read past pertinent points. You have in my opinion a very tunnel visioned view of Firearms Law where licensing alone dictates what you can and can't do. It's very much like saying your car licence doesn't say it's illegal to exceed the speed limit so you can't get prosecuted for an accident if you do. The fact is, there are laws that lie beyond mere licensing that affect what you can and can't do. It's also totally i
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    We'll just have to agree to disagree Deker as to the advisability of such a step. All I can say is get vide'od by a member of the public, bearing in mind almost every phone now has a HD video recording capability, getting unlucky and putting 3 or so shots into an animal along with a call to the police followed up by the RSPCA, and if you're found using solid ammo outside of an air rifle or slug in situations suitable for those, then good luck defending your position in Court against a charge under animal welfare laws of causing unnecessary suffering, when solid ammo is generally considered
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    Open your eyes, who would have any chance of winning any case of causing unnecessary suffering to a rabbit etc using 100ft lb (or more) .22lr Solid when nobody bats an eyelid at 12ft lb air rifle, and you are going backwards on your statement in #11 already, saying rats and mice are fine! So is 2900Ft Lb of energy with a solid on a Boar not Humane? Like I said, take a step back and think about it a bit more, and how many species did you come up with that the LAW states Expanding only? Deker, it's not about ft lbs, it's about results. If you are seen getting non clean kills agai
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    HV's are noisy. My friend and I shot on a very large hilly estate with his .22LR some time ago. With subs, the gun was quieter than my moderated air rifle. With HV's the crack from the rifle echoed back off hills several miles away. It was probably more noticeable because it was at night, but the sound literally reverberated 3 or 4 times off adjacent hills. In my opinion, the extra few yds and the flatter trajectory simply aren't worth the loss of stealth.
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    Deker, I know full well that anyone with a certificate can buy solid ammo. My only point of contention is it's use on live prey. Times have changed as you have pointed out and using solid ammo on pretty much anything other than maybe mice and rats, is going to be very hard to justify in law. If you are seen to cause wounding to eg rabbits and it's discovered that you were using solid ammo when expanding was available, then good luck proving you weren't causing necessary suffering. It's worth remembering here that it's not only firearms law that binds you here....
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    I think you're on pretty shaky ground shooting live prey with solid ammo though Walshie, airguns aside. Thanks for clearing the ammo point up at Bisley. The OP gave the impression there was a blanket ban. If he's wanting to competition shoot with his own rifle, then that puts a whole new complexion on the debate.
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    From your conversation with your FEO, do you think perhaps your FEO got the impression that you were enquiring about you target shooting rather than buying solids for general use. If this is the case, then your FEO would have been correct in saying that you can't take part in target shooting unless your FAC is so conditioned and you can't get it conditioned for target shooting unless you are a member of a club. Very good point Charlie. But I'm not sure there is any general use for solids as you'd fall foul of humane requirements against live prey. It's all a bit of a catch
  9. Alsone
    He'll soon stop that unless he's very rich. It's a very expensive rabbit tool and the laugh you get from exploding animals from the amazement of the power of a truly overkill calibre, lasts all of about 10 minutes. After that, the smile has gone as you get used to the power and it's watch the wallet drain time.
  10. Alsone
    These are what you really want for precision competition shooting: http://www.edinkillie.co.uk/ecatalog/firearms-smallbore-rifles-c-88_76.html Probably not rugged enough for field work though. Best combo would be a cheap 10/22 or Magtech and one of those. Need a deep wallet though.
  11. Alsone
    Bolt actions are often said to be more accurate than semi-auto, so if you're target shooting you might want to consider that. Personally, I'd worry less about what magazine a gun comes with, than what accessory magazine you can buy to fit, as often guns come with small capacity mags as standard with larger capacity available as accessories. My advice would therefore be to look at guns with a reputation for high accuracy and see what magazines are available as accessories, and whether or not those magazines have a reputation for reliability when used with the gun in question. In all
  12. Alsone
    Lead comes with practice. Learning to unwind properly will also help your shooting. Start by mounting the gun and pointing at the point where you will actually shoot the clay. If unsure of the point, look where others are shooting it at. ie face the position with both body and feet relaxed. Then twist your body back towards the trap so its wound up like a spring, do not move your feet! Call for the clay and let your body naturally unwind as you follow the clay. Fire when it's unwound at the point where you intended to shoot the clay. Doing it this way your body unwinds naturally and is
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    Not used one myself Deerhound, but it seems reasonable against fox. This is the .17 under live prey test at quite some distance: It's going to be a definite downgrade from a .223 with around 1/2 the energy, but if it does the job at the ranges you want and serves as a duel purpose gun, then i don't see an issue.
  14. Alsone
    No need to reload for the .17 Hornet as being a new round, all the ammo is good off the shelf. Only issue as Deker says is availability isn't fantastic as it's not the most widely used calibre. Much better though than some of the other .17's in that regard. As for .22 Hornet, 4 issues - need to reload, heavier bullet, more energy, ballistics poor at long range (just look in the table above at 300yds with a 200yd zero for .22 Hornet - 17 inches of drop!) - just depends at what range his bunnies are at. That's one thing he hasn't said that's crucial really. No point in having a .17 Remin
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    Small and light is ideal for bunnies but equally suffers windage. Any round with more energy / weight is going to damage meat if body shot. I reckon a .17 CF is the way to go but you are going to suffer damage and windage issues. .17 hornet is about the least powerful of the .17cf's but it's still good for 300yds+: There's a good comparison chart here: Another consideration is ammo availability. 17 Hornet is available off the shelf if you don't want to reload as is Remington. Only thing to be aware of as well is ammo cost. .17 remington is a necked .222 Magnum case from me
  16. Alsone
    Wherever you point the rifle the dot will point at the cross hairs ONLY if the distance is the zero distance. You're quite right that if its shorter than the zero the dot will be above and further the dot will be below. Not going to repeat it all again as put it in 2 posts above, but to work out the distance, it requires you to estimate the amount above / below by eye and have pre-worked out the distance that the drop / elevation corresponds to in advance. Yep gives a headache if you think for too long! Yep works better at short distance.
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    I don't know if this helps or confuses, but this is my understanding / representation between laser, gun sight and bullet:
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    You can use a laser to range find, but it's as in my post #7 on the previous page. What you're doing is mounting the laser higher than the scope so the laser is on a slightly downward angle which you adjust until the downward angle co-insides with the cross hairs at the chosen zero range. From then on by estimating the distance the dot is above or below the cross hairs, you have an estimate of the range provided you've taken the time to also calculate by trigonometry or practical testing the distance above or below at a range of different ranges.It is only an estimation though and one far
  19. Alsone
    No it can't David. Light always travels in straight lines. If it's on the same plane as the cross hair it will always be on the cross hair at ANY distance.If it's falling below then it's because the laser is inclined down. The only way to bend light is via a prism or very very strong magnetic field. Other than that, it travels straight even for millions of miles. It's the fact the laser is inclined on it's mount that makes it fall above or below the cross hair. This picture here gives you a very good example of just how straight light including laser travels: Not necess
  20. Alsone
    Don't see why it wouldn't be usable at night. A laser is a laser. If it's capable of measuring to 600yds then that should be it's usable distance night or day. Laser light is less visible during the day as it gets washed out by other light so should actually be easier to detect at night. Even IR has to compete with IR from the sun in the day. My understanding of how most laser range finders is they work by firing a short laser pulse at the target and then measure the time taken for it to be reflected back. I'm sure some others on here will have experience of using laser range finders s
  21. Alsone
    If you're mounting the laser above and seeing a difference then it can only be because the laser is pointing down to the zero point. The issue I see with that, is beyond the zero the amount the laser will drop is dictated by the angle of the mount and so it will be individual to your gun / mount. You could work it out as it would be a constant, and once you've worked out the drop for various distances, you could then by estimating the drop by sight, estimate the range based on your calculations for drop vs distance, but it seems a very hard and inaccurate way of finding distance to my mind
  22. Alsone
    ????? Dot will always be spot on at every range as light travels in straight lines, so unlike a bullet, you don't get drop. You won't be able to tell the distance therefore. Best buy a laser range finder. They're not too expensive when not built into the scope.
  23. Alsone
    I've only ever shot them through a .22 Winchester pump action rifle with a tubular magazine at shooting galleries when I was a small boy. They cycled fine through those. Won't cycle in anything automatic though and due to their size, I can imagine magazine feeding could be problematic.
  24. Alsone
    Lowest powered ammo always was percussion caps ie. 22CB or .22 BB Caps. Very rare ammo these days if obtainable at all, as they had little use outside of shooting galleries (which are now all but banned for H&S reasons). However I believe percussion caps were occasionally used for birds at short range. This is what they look like but you'll probably not be able to obtain them: I haven't fired, seen or heard of them in years. Nearest thing to a true cap these days (and probably more suited to hunting due to higher energy), is the .22 Short which is 32ft lbs at the muzzle. C
  25. Alsone
    This. ^^^^^^^ Very little point to using HV's really. Give you a few extra yards for a lot more noise. All LR ammo tends to richochet, so most people I know simply buy subs. Cheaper, quieter and don't carry as far on ricochet if it happens. If you need more gun, then there are choices in both RF and CF, although LR will despatch rabbits all day long without issue. You're more likely to have issues hitting them than killing them! On the sound point, my mate had a box of HV's we tried out one night on one of his rural shoots. Subs, couldn't hear them, quieter than a 12ftlbs moderated
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