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  1. Alsone
    I didn't suggest a 7.62 or a .308 though, I suggested the .22 Hornet's little brother. It was worth mentioning for others reading if not Walshie, as anyone considering the .22 should always consider the .17 Hornet as well. If the.17 doesn't float your particular boat, then that's fair enough. BTW, on the subject of internet scouring / armchair shooting, I have 30 yrs experience in the field. .22 Hornet is a useful little round if you like playing around with reloading. Good luck with the .22 CZ Walshie if that's the route you choose.
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    .17 Hornet outperforms .22 Hornet despite the .22 having more muzzle energy, and you don't need to reload. At 200yds the .17 has more energy than both the 35 and 45 grain .22 Hornet options (294ft lbs), and 1/3rd the drop. At 300yds it's still only 6.4 inches down with a 200yd zero. Try that with the .22 and you're 16.9 inches down. Personally, I wouldn't take anything over 150yds or so with either, but there are plenty of reports of people taking fox to 250yds with the .17. I know someone on here has one and previously said they love it. This is the terminal performance of the .17 Ack
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    I definitely consider the .17 Hornet Dan as an alternative. A little less energy than the .22 version, but good off the shelf ammo and flatter shooting ballistics (from memory the same as the .223).
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    I'm still with Walshie.
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    Lethality, really? I'm accused of spouting bullshit but Frank Barnes one of the most famous World Wide experts on cartridges and reloading (remember the Barnes grenade), specifically states that military FMJ is unsuitable for hunting and is designed to wound. It's also been a military tactic for well over 100 years to wound instead of kill irrespective of whether that comes from the Geneva convention restrictions on design or deliberate bullet design in itself, because of it's ability to take forces out of the theatre of operation in caring for injured colleagues. Many munitions are design
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    Maybe you ought to do more reading Deker. As I tied you into the book above, it's long been a military principle that wounding is preferable to killing on the battlefield because it ties up resources. Maybe you'll believe Frank C Barnes, one of the world's most famous and foremost ammunition experts. In his book "Cartridges of the World: An illustrated reference for more than 1500 cartridges" he says the following (bottom of page 1st left hand side in the link): https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=02CYCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA487&lpg=PA487&dq=us+ammo+military+designed+to+wound&am
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    I'm not surprised as the Lux looks like an elephant gun. And they don't have an american in stock, Personally, I'd be tempted to buy the Lux and order a Boyds stock. For what I reckon would be approx £100 after import duties ($99 = £70), you'd could have a far nicer stock than either, assuming you can fit it yourself, and for approx £30 more than the American overall.
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    Actually Deker, not trying to be argumentative but lllluke is correct - military rounds are designed to wound at range because if you kill a person you take 1 person out of the battle. If you wound a person, you take out 5, the wounded person plus 4 people to carry the stretcher, plus you use up support resources such as trucks and helicopters ferrying in medical supplies and evacuating people out to field hospitals. There's a google book here on the military theory behind it: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=yqHCCQAAQBAJ&pg=PT17&lpg=PT17&dq=shoot+to+wound+battlefield+milita
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    Just because something will kill doesn't mean it's suitable, something the Home Office have recognised in permitting civilians access to expanding ammunition, which is the last thing the authorities actually want civilians to have. As I've said many time before, you can kill anything with anything. There are examples of people being killed by 12ft lb air rifles in accidents or by miscreant youths on housing estates. Search Youtube and there are videos of people in other jurisdictions killing wild boar with .22LR! Of course .22-250 has the energy to kill fox, or even deer, it's never it
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    The issue is, as Walshie picked up on it's more likely to pass through. For sure, hit something substantial such as a bone full on and you will get shock. But hit pure flesh and it's quite easy for the round to go straight and the fox survive to bleed out.
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    +1 for Walshie. Likely to get little energy transference without expansion / fragmentation. Only way it's likely to kill is through either a direct or indirect (bone fragment) hit on an artery or the heart, in which case bleed out time to unconsciousness can be anything from maybe 10 secs for something like the carotid to minutes or hours depending on what is hit.
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    http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/cz-527-american-s-c-22-hornet Can save £70 with the Lux version.
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    You haven't said how long the barrels are or whether the gun is a good fit. I'd hazard a guess it could be a 30" in which case a 28" or 26" might suit you better. 26" isn't that common in a semi, but there are some out there eg the Browning Maxus has a 26" option. Also, it would be worth checking gun fit as one thing that will make the gun seem excessively large is if the stock is too long for you and your stretched out to reach the grip / trigger - a poorly fitting stock can make an ordinary length gun seem huge and will also ruin your accuracy / swing. I'd say most people who fin
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    Yeah here it controls the trigger. It locks a laser onto the target, you pull the trigger and it adjusts the reticule in real time to match distance etc, but it doesn't fire. It fires automatically when you guide the cross hairs onto the lock on point even if they cross momentarily. Claims it works even if you or the target are moving. Looks very impressive from the videos. Only thing that wasn't clear to me was what happens about windage?
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    Anyone seen this before? If no civilian banned this could be about to take most of the skill out of shooting for those with deep pockets ($15,900 for the 7.62mm!). There is a bolt action in .338. Presumably they might offer one in 7.62 potentially making it more widely attractive to the civilian market, other legalities allowing. The system is called tracking point which uses laser designation and tracking to assign targets and then automatically calculates a firing solution that is updated in real time. This older archived video suggest civilian application
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    You have to declare any condition that could affect your suitability and it's an offence to make a false declaration that can result in prison. If you hide it and it ever becomes apparent then you will be prosecuted and I doubt a Court will go easy on any deliberate cover up. By all means seek private care. However, don't try to hide it. Taken from the firearms application form notes as published here: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/511189/Ei_-_Form_201.pdf Speak to the BASC about declarations. ...and whilst I don't want to post inform
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    If it's anything like the carbon deposits from car brakes, you could try Valet Pro Bilbury wheel cleaner as it's acid free and very effective on alloys. Not 100% sure how the blackening would react on a black moderator. Might be safest on silver, unless you want to be the 1st to try!
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    Just to stir the pot a little, don't discount .17 Hornet (CF) if you intend to go after fox at medium range - upper limit for fox for a novice with .22 LR is around 40yds (and HO guidelines say no grant for fox except to experienced shooters for short range use and use around buildings). Some experienced shooters do use them out to 80yds. Only consideration here is risk of injury to the animal and prosecution if you do injure through excess range, and it's seen and reported. Plus no-one who shoots should ever take risks with wounding, a conscience should come with the territory. The correc
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    Pure Anxiety isn't a bar to holding a certificate. If it's pure anxiety, you need to be very careful with what your GP records as many record anxiety as "anxiety and depression" as the two often go together, thereby mis-recording for pure anxiety. So always ask the doctor what he's written at the end of the consultation as it's impossible to change later. You need to consult the BASC about declaring your condition as getting it wrong could result in prosecution.
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    I can get that down a bit for you if you can nip up to Hertfordshire and bulk buy & collect. £39.20 in Hertfordshire per 20 or £175.20 per 100: http://gunshop-eb.com/CF%20Sporting%20%20Ammunition.php 100-200+ would probably make the trip worthwhile depending on your licence holding.
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    How do you find the ammo as I'd heard it's near impossible to get the brass and the stock ammo is very expensive.
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    Sportsman gun centre usually have deals on scopes. You can get some Zeiss for that type of money or less: http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/optics-accessories/rifle-scopes/zeiss-scopes/sort-by/price/sort-direction/asc It might be worth making some comparison and looking up reviews on glass quality and tracking for each model, before making a decision.
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    8+1. Someone intends doing some serious banging.
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    Exactly. No where do the licensing laws state that to show good reason every species you intend to shoot must live on or visit your own permission. You have good reason for the calibre independent of deer and you have a confirmed standing invitation to shoot deer over a known deer permission in the company of an established stalker. So as you're granted a deer legal calibre there needs to be some justification as to why you can't have AOLQ or a deer condition on your certificate. Just strikes me as pedantic. As I said earlier, talk to the BASC and maybe they can intervene on your behalf.
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    I agree with Charlie on the condition being unusual. However, you need to check what's written before shooting any deer!. If you're a member, I would speak to the BASC Firearms Team as I'm struggling to see why you need to prove you have deer on your land. If you needed deer to get the calibre granted that would be one thing, but as they're willing to grant the rifle in any event, it defies logic that they wouldn't give you permission for deer or ALOQ on it given that it's a deer legal calibre. Plus your friend has confirmed an invitation for deer shooting. It almost says they don'
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