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Alsone

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  1. Obviously Ian it must all be in my imagination: http://www.predatormastersforums.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2416895 http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/5319779/Re:_.204_Pelt_Damage http://ukvarminting.com/forums/topic/20235-bullet-break-up-204/ http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=454154 http://www.longrangehunting.com/forums/f30/help-204-ruger-139482/index2.html I could go on. Suffice to say there's plenty of evidence out there of genuine users experiencing splash with .204. Most seems to be restricted to particul
  2. Ha ha. I guess that depends where you shoot them! It's all about mistakes and margins. While I agree in theory that more ft-lbs should be more forgiving if you do cock up the shot..... In reality, my opinion of that is, its simply not true! That is based on the fact that I've shot a 220 swift and .223 week in week out for over two years.... both using 40grn Nosler BTs.... There is a considerable speed difference between the two with the swift pushing over 4000fps (slightly faster than the 22-250).... But having seen hundreds of foxes shot with both calibres using the s
  3. Ha ha. I guess that depends where you shoot them! It's all about mistakes and margins.
  4. TBH there's one thing wrong with this test - it's measuring penetration. What it should be measuring is energy transferrence. The fact that .223 has penetrated further doesn't mean it's the more powerful round as the presenter appears to conclude, because it could just be the .22-250 transferred more of it's energy on impact. So it was more explosive on the target and less penetrative. That's what you actually want in any event, maximum energy transferrence on the target combined with sufficient penetration to prevent splash (not a known issue with these calibres). I'm sure with solid
  5. Personally I think the new restrictions are ridiculous and throwing the baby out wth the bath water. I also think there should be a right of self defence with a firearm in the UK. You shouldn't have to rely on a jury in cases such as Tony Martins. What politicians always fail top realise, is that you'll never stop incidents, not least because most involve illegal firearms. Even then you will still have the odd incident with legal. What you need are stringent checks such as in the UK and stringent safekeeping requirements. Ultimately if someone is deermined to kill others, they will do so no ma
  6. Personally I'd wait off buying a semi / pump until such time as the whole EU regulation thing is resolved. Otherwise you might end up buying a rifle only to have it taken away for a fraction of it's value a few months down the line.
  7. It looks like it will affect the UK. Many UK Shooters have .22 semi autos that resemble military weapons. I know a few myself. Equally, every shotgun certificate holder would be affected if required to prove good reason as currently you can hold a shotgun certificate provided you are fit to hold one without having to prove you have good reason to need a shotgun. That would affect a lot of holders who either don't shoot regularly or don't have land to shoot over. It seems to me the UK is about to get caught up in an EU backlash.
  8. :hmm: You are off wondering around comments on the thread, my question was about the response to the OP. Wasn't aware I was but OK. Nah. This is what you want on your hummer for fox control: or for stealth at night, the balck civi version built into a regular SUV: Mine you, I hate to be a reloader. That'd be quite a few nights in front of the telly after a hunting trip!
  9. yes in west Yorkshire Are you suggesting W Yorks have their OWN law that says it cannot be done ? Nope but the licensing guidelines are clear on the point. The only point open to interpretation is "close range" and I'd think you'd have difficulty getting 120yds classified as close range in Court if a revocation for breach of conditions followed.Of course there maybe some flexibility here if the licence is not conditioned with the correct wording. However, something to always bear in mind, irrespective of licensing conditions, the laws on causing unecessary suffering etc sti
  10. :icon_eek: :icon_eek: Listen to your uncle Walshie! A treeline is NOT a safe backstop. With trees you have no way of knowing if anyone is in the wood behind and you have no way of knowing if the bullet may weave a path through the wood missing all the trees and coming out of the other side. Remember a firearm is not an air rfile. A .22LR bullet remains dangerous at up to 1.5 miles, albeit you'd never reach that distance with a normally elevated shot. However, it will travel for a long distance and remain very dangerous / deadly to people and property. The only safe backstop is t
  11. The answer with mental health issues is it depends on what issues they are. That said, if it's your wife who has the issues, it shouldn't affect you although you are required through both general safe keeping requirements and also specific notice of her issues to keep your keys inaccessible to her at all times. If she gets a hold of them, expect to be in trouble on many levels. Personally, I'd be careful about letting her shoot as if anything did go wrong, you're the one responsible for allowing her access to your guns even if supervised shooting was otherwise lawful.
  12. That'd be TOO easy wouldn't it? Yeah. It would be stupid to have an online database that you could simply search by address for up to date information on clearance.
  13. Andy isn't the issue with .270 and 7x57 the jacketing though? I'd have thought the problem with bullets designed for dear is on a soft bodied animal like a fox, they're likely to pass through with little expansion which in turn means little energy transference. Compare that to eg a tipped .22-250 that explosively fragments inside the animal transferring large amounts of energy as it goes, and it's not hard to see why the .22-250 is probably more suitable, but it's not the calibre but ammunition.
  14. One way to find out, check ballistic tables. There are full tables out there that compare every calibre for vel, energy, and drop at various distances. Whilst tables don't tell everything, it should at least point you in the right direction to narrowing calibres scientifically rather than just by hoping it will perform better at 100yds+. The latter can be expensive as a test method especially as larger calibres bullets tend to drop more which is why biggest isn't always best.
  15. Yes I know I corrected what I said above. Thanks for the heads up.
  16. The calculation, as it saves everyone having to enter the figures: I see your point about between 45 and 55 yds. It should have said 7.73 inches overall. Now edited.
  17. I just ran it through a ballistic calculator using the figures in the video ie 36ft lbs = 875.63 fps, Barracuda Match 21.14gr pellet, BC 0.039, Dia .21 (inch): http://www.airguns.net/trajectory.php http://www.hn-sport.de/en/products/air-gun-pellets/hunting-and-field-target/baracuda-match.html Drop came out at 7.73 inches at 55 yds with a 45 yd zero. Another confusion of yds and cm's it seems. More than 2 inches is a very significant drop in 10yds though and given the distance, those ballistics and comparative lack of energy (25ft lbs) , would have me reaching for a rimmy!
  18. There's a 50% off coupon code here: CRZY50 It's 4 yrs old so probably doesn't work, but it might be worth as try as it would get you below the export limit as well as giving you a bargain if it does. I can't try it for you as I'm not registered there.
  19. That's what I was thinking on my ticket it just says un named silencer Won't the dealer have filled out a form though registering the fact that you've bought one, in which case, the police will know you are in possession of 2, as 2 bought but non scrapped. (I don't know the procedure for moderators but I'm presuming if they're restricted that the dealer will have to notify the sale). Personally, I really can't see why you shouldn't have more than 1, you can't fire a silencer, but there you go.
  20. Interesting video here of comparisons and advantages / disadvantages of 12fts vs 36ft lbs FAC, - advice at end "....if you can, take the jump straight to a rimfire"
  21. Surprised you don't wear full arm length gloves as aren't some of the chemicals harmful? I always thought at least one of them was carcinogenic. Nice results though.
  22. You could but provided you're within the humane range for your calibre, and reasonably competent, allowance will probably be made for human frailty as everyone knows that there's no such thing as a 100% guaranteed instantaneous death every time. No-one is 100% accurate 100% of the time and then there's extraneous factors such as the sudden wind gust or the ammo that doesn't perform as expected etc. In my opinion as a non expert, that's different entirely to shooting at an unsuitable range, especially when the LR Guidance specifically states LR should be granted for short range use only aga
  23. They'd just obtain an expert opinion and if that fell outside of the range you'd been shooting at, then you'd be in difficulties.
  24. Doesn't really matter what they choose to believe they "allow". The Police uphold the law, they do not make it! The fact they may not "condition" it on your ticket is neither here nor there. If you shoot a fox with a rimfire rifle it is legal. If they take you to court for shooting a fox with a rimfire (which they won't) they would look pretty stupid ignoring H.O guidelines which all Police forces claim to follow. Proving effective range limits for R/F would be a nightmare for them, otherwise they would stipulate them. I've shot plenty of fox with LR and HMR and if common sense is use
  25. .17 Hornet is fine out of the box. Very good factory ammo. You're thinking of the .22 Hornet. .17 Hornet is very flat shooting as Ian will confirm and is fox capable at short to medium ranges with around 500 ft lbs on tap. However, if you're not such a great shot with placement, a larger more explosive calibre would probably be a better choice. Personally of the .22 Cf's I've seen in terms of destructive power, the two that stand out are .22-250 or .243. At the smaller end, .20 is quite explosive but has had some ammo issues with splashing. It's also quite a light round. A
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