I did say many years ago: a long time before the ban in fact. As for brutal, not really: just do what is necessary. Why is it that some people seem to think that women have to be soft and useless in the field? Mind you, I've seen plenty of men scared to handle a live fox
oh yes me too big strapping lads gangster wannebes ask em to get in and take a grap they soon go all sheepish lol......