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  1. No, I said I did not understand you. I will ask you again. Please keep the debate civil.
  2. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/02/retirees-in-these-countries-receive-100-of-a-working-salary/
  3. I don't understand you NP. I'm not into point scoring and insisting on the last word. You win. I'm having a dram and going to bed. Good night.
  4. Good point fellow chuckle brother, but in the past Russian involvement only involved a few dodgy MPs an odd whore like Christine Keeler shagging the defence minister and a ruskie. Influencing the way people vote and think by the internet is a lot more sinister. Let's see what the report says. I may be a complete red herring ( no pun intended).
  5. And further..... if Wilf and myself can reach a " chuckle brothers" relationship on here I am sure there is hope for you NP.
  6. 1I think you are very unfair. You are presupposing what my opinions are. I have never called anybody bigoted for exercising their democratic right. I fully accept flooding a country with 3 million immigrants with no extra infrastructure is completely bonkers.I do know, that meddling illegally in another country's internal political procedures is definitely not diplomacy. I like to see a fair playing field. I think you are very quick to defend the indefensible. When I pointed out that the UK pension was one of the lowest in the OECD. You pointed out that one needs 42 qualifying years to gain
  7. I hope you are right NP. It will be interesting to peruse the report into Russian involvement in Brexit which was due to be published in October but which has been withheld from the British public until after the election.
  8. NP they are not my allegations or insinuations, they are all in the public domain. I think there are legitimate concerns about the man whatever one's political beliefs. I was surprised you dismissed the FBI's interest in him. Concern about Russia's involvement in both brexit and the US election is an ongoing, real and genuine concern felt by supporters of true democracy on both sides of the Atlantic. The Russians have a vested interest in the UK leaving the EU, Putin is an on record supporting brexit. Farage worries me, he's dodgy. Lots of people are saying 'move along, there's nothing to se
  9. Dido I don't know what Corbyn and Abbot have said, I'm not a Labour Party member. However anybody legally living here, who has citizenship should surely be entitled to a vote. If by kids you mean sixteen year olds, then, again I would agree they should be given the vote. I don't see how Corbyn or Abbot could support free movement if and when brexit finally happens. That would be impossible. Does that qualify for the fifty quid?
  10. Agreed free movement will stay if there is a second referendum and remain wins, but that's always been part of the deal for remaining in the EU. IMO that's at the heart of the EU argument.
  11. 10 pages long this thread and not one personal insult aimed at anybody. A THL record.
  12. Bob just because the poster states that it is real does not make it real. I've just read the manifesto none of that 'fake news' stuff is in it. In any case the pressure group "labour for free movement" is only a fringe Labour party pressure group it does not write Labour Party policy. I clicked on to "Labour for free movement" and that poster you show is not present there.
  13. Nicepix I think you must have been a good cop.? A bad cop would ask Farage the following questions: 1) In 2008 why was he the only MEP to remain seated in The European Parliament when Prince Charles delivered a speech encouraging international cooperation on climate change policies? Does he have "dirty industry" financial backing? 2) If he hates the European Parliament so much why has he taken £2 million in wages from them? 3) Can he name anything positive he contributed to the European Parliament? 4) Why did he fail to declare £205603 in gifts during his time in the Europ
  14. Wow Wow, that is very impressive. Can I send your kids my mutts to train? Hope he continues to come good for you. He looks a smart 'listening' pup.
  15. Wilf and Accip, maybe left and right are outdated terms. Fake news and spin make finding the truth even more difficult. But there's common sense and basic morality. Best to vote with your conscience and sense of decency and forget the labels.
  16. Consistency is er not Johnstone's strength.
  17. Remember when Johnstone claimed for a wreath he laid on Armistice Sunday? Moral degenerate. Can't even practise contraception...one illegitimate child he has nothing to do with, and two abortions with another 'lady'. And they are the ones which are in the public domain. He would have been good value for the Jeremy Kyle show. Even mainstream tories despise him. I cannot think of a time where I have been more discomfited at the thought of such a man in Downing Street. Even Thatcher kept her word. People think he is funny. He is a very dangerous man.He is completely amoral. His priority is hims
  18. https://www.50connect.co.uk/blogs/how-does-the-uk-pension-measure-up-against-the-res I think these figures are out of date. The french now have to work until they are 62 before they get full pension. We have to work until 67. The french don't take any shit. We do..... continually . Time we started demanding decent schools hospitals housing and hospitals. It's not a lot to ask. You don't have to be a raging commie to aspire to the same living conditions as the rest of the developed world.
  19. Of course the NHS isn't free. I paid National Insurance contributions and tax for 47 years. We do need to have a national, adult conversation about the future of the NHS .But I do not trust the tories to chair that conversation. NP can you show me some reliable stats that demonstrate that the French pension is lower than the British? I receive circa 6 grand in state pension after a nearly half a century of work. Stats I have seen show the French pension to be twice that????. Not being arsy just curious.
  20. No, I have just checked the stats. It is a political decision by the tories to starve the NHS. They hate the institution: they think it smacks of sharing, cooperation and working class solidarity. Like council houses they want to sell , to them it represents a dangerous ideology. They believe like Thatcher that " there's no such thing as society". It's every man for himself.They don't fund our schools properly either because, like the NHS they don't use them, they educate their kids privately and claim tax exemption for them in the bargain!. I don't mind paying more tax as long as it i
  21. Yes but I hunt like a tory, I ignore the law when it suits me,especialy a bad law.
  22. I came across an expression the other day..."confirmation bias". People believe what they want to believe no matter what the evidence. I think Johnstone is a moral cesspit and Farage a spiv. Tommy Robinson is another professional agitator/journalist, who like Farage makes a very good living out of gullible people's fears. Lots of you guys think the opposite even though we are exposed to the same media outlets and information. Not much point in wasting time on here trying to persuade each other of our different viewpoints. All I want to point out is that the NHS, sick pay, pensions, overt
  23. When I read up on Libertarianism I found out that it was initially a leftie philosophy but it has now been adopted by the far right! The extreme left and far right tend to have views which eventually coincide. Neither for me. I'm voting Labour on the basis that I can't remember a single tory policy which has done any good for us. People cite the selling of council houses but all that has done is create thousands more private landlords and screwed the younger generation. The unions and Labour, for the last one hundred years have created all the steps forward for ordinary people, the
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