Yeah same here Steve66,went out sunday with my son and got 5five squizzers but all with a shot gun,just culd'nt get a shot that was acceptable for me to take with the catty,any way it's a spot i didn't know that squizzers lived up to now ,so in the future i'm goin with some bearings and round pebbles the area is loaded with them its by a major river an all,an see if i can get one with my catty.