With you 100% gafer, I cringe every time I see someone walking a dog, or worse, two dogs along busy roadways etc. I go out of my way to avoid these individuals. No idea, no control and no thought with these people, yep, ban em!had a terrier come a my dhx,s today fully extended i whent ape shit at the owners who was laughing its only playing they said i said these don't ya feking numpty get control of the f***ing thing they replied it is its on a lead i said ye 15ft in front at that point mine was pulling the owner spotted it and shit him self then blamed me lol apparently its my fault his quo