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  1. Perhaps some of our American cousins can come on and tell us what they know of the coyote hounds that have been featured in pictures historically right back to General Custer who took his coursing hounds with him on his forays???
  2. Ive always known staghounds as basically Deerhoundy lurcher types,all the travelling lads owned pot filling stags at some stage or another.People get mixed up with hounds that hunt stags here and lurchers that are known as staghounds.I know where your coming from,yet the dogs that are bred over there now have many generations of non working jukels in the mix,the same as here.Selective breeding and graft as brought out the best from the original. That's basically my point morton. The yank dogs have been bred according to how they dealt with coyotes etc. for 200 years and for most of that tim
  3. If you read what I've written very carefully you'll see that I've been talking about a tested line over the 200 years or so that have elapsed since the settlers brought their deerhound types to America, where their dogs have been used on far more potent game than we have access to. We could take an individual K.C.show type greyhound and run the legs off it at rabbits but it would still be a k.c. show type greyhound.....no matter how many rabbits it may have caught.
  4. Morton I deliberately said staghound types because I was referring, not to deerhounds, but to the working staghounds that are descended from the original settlers deerhounds and their crosses bred for work all down the line in the U.S.A. as opposed to the show deerhounds bred for looks. In other words I don't think the american staghounds are merely the equivalent of the deerhound crosses we would be talking about in Britain today. The most ardent british deerhound enthusiast has only show type deerhounds to work with today.....unless someone has been breeding and testing a secret line of high
  5. "was there not a pup outta dancer in ni reland bout that time boilo" I had a brother to Blondie (Dancer x Nipper) which I sold back to Alan when Harry's pup from the litter died in an accident, but that was earlier. I also had a bitch pup out of Dancer to Joey which I sold around 4 or 5 months old to T.T.? in Lurgan. Then there was Max (Dancer x Smokey) that Alan gave me when he injured a hock. I bred him to my saluki bitch and got Willow. I gave him back to Alan a year or two later as he wanted to put him to Blondie. They Dancer x Joey bitch was a yellow coloured feathered bitch.
  6. No but at least T.G.'s pure saluki was competing against some of the top coursing lurchers in the country....not just some other k.c. salukis owned by the few saluki coursing club members lucky enough to be allowed to run in what was tantamount to a closed shop membership event. The K.C. type breeder places to much emphasis on purity of lineage and not enough on purity of performance....i.m.h.o.
  7. And I assume that the staghound types that Dan and his countrymen uses are descended from the original deerhounds brought over by settlers 200 years ago when deerhounds were purely working type rough haired greyhounds bred for ability not show. In the intervening years the yanks have continued to breed for performance....and against bigger, more dangerous quary than anything our dogs have to tackle. Meanwhile the deerhound over here has probably gone in the opposite direction, being mainly selected for a handsome profile, coat type and height. No matter that one or two people have been trying
  8. I agree with what your saying mate but to be fair, to get the parents with the desired assets, someone at some point had to add what was needed at the time to the mix to get the desired result. Thats true Baw but the space race wasn't won by men using flint implements....even though someone at some point had to work out how to make tools from stone. It would be like going back to the first step on the evolutionary ladder each time......wouldn't we be better to start at the top where we are now?
  9. Aye thats the Shamrock that Noony sold to Packer.....strong made red featherd bitch.
  10. What I mean is that a lot of the videos can be made up of various runs and competitions over a wide time span. From my own collection I could make up a tape where runs from the 1980's are juxtaposed with runs from just before the ban....ahem....and someone watching today might think that, for example, Laddie and Lucky ran in the same era. I'm not sure that Foxy was even still alive in 2005......Miles?
  11. If I had a bitch that lacked speed would I breed it to a greyhound?...... No! If I had a bitch that lacked stamina would I breed it to a saluki?...... No! If I had a bitch that lacked any one of the required traits for the job in hand I wouldn't breed from it at all......I'd buy a pup from two parents that DID possess the desired traits and hope that it had inherited these very qualities. I.M.H.O.
  12. Paul Noon or Packer had a Shamrock bitch Salukixgreyhound but Foxy was a lot older than 8 in 2005. She ran second to Dancer in '98 by which time she had already won dozens of matches. Some of those tapes have been spliced together over the years....runs from different men over variable time spans and can be confusing.
  13. J.L.'s Star bitch (pure saluki) killed 7 in one day in front of witnesses on ground that was well hunted and I saw her pluck a partridge out of the air on our way across a plough on another occasion. He tells me that the best he ever had was a black and tan (or chocolate and tan?) bitch pictured on his wall, that died from kidney failure at about 4 years old. I remember showing a video of Wilburs purebreds to a pal and he asked, "what way bred are these lurchers, they're top class?"......he was gobsmacked when I told him they were pure salukis. Also T.G.'s pure saluki bitch was the onl
  14. You deserve a result with that breeding and the travelling you've done to get it J.
  15. Spanish coursing greyhound type dog with a lot more stamina than our modern greyhounds but similar running style. Only seen them on video myself but check them out on youtube.
  16. So true blackgreyhound.......I've never seen a good deerhound/greyhound but I've seen loads of good saluki / greyound mixtures.....maybe I've led a sheltered life.
  17. Jimmy Frazer bred a litter of genuine first crosses in Belfast 35 years ago. He kept a dog called Blue and I got a bitch from the litter, don't even remember her name... Both were average performers with above average looks. The show people would have loved them....but I was killing more with a pure whippet bitch I had at the time.
  18. Well being faster means nothing if the saluki cross is fast enough already. Perhaps the fact that all the main coursing competitions were open to all, and yet the saluki crosses won them all answers your question?
  19. As most modern greyhounds appear to have been bred for speed around a track rather than ability in the field it would seem to me to make more sense to use a fen bred lurcher, which will have the advantage of stamina, coursing sense, enough pace, and durability. But hey...what would I know? I would love the opportunty to try a saluki x Galgo however, which may just approximate the original greyhound before breeding for the track lost some of these qualities.
  20. My old pal Templeking used to tell me of a recurring nightmare he had of travelling down the road and meeting an artic' on its side careening up the road across both lanes in toward us.......it was always me in the passenger seat! This went on for years and he would often tell me on a sunday morning on the way to hunt, " I had that dream again last night"!! I wonder if you still have that nightmare Stevie but with PH in the passenger seat now? lol.
  21. Yes I always said I would back Dancer in a 3 from 3 match but Blondie in a 5 from 5. Two first class bitches!!
  22. Never worry about youtube pp, get your wellies mucky and make up your own mind!
  23. Dancer could kill anywhere....I saw her kill quickly and after taking the long route. Most of the dogs of Craigs breeding that I've seen seem more suited to the long route. When Dancer was mated to Foxy's brother Nipper, she produced Blondie, and Blondie was the bitch that I thought was the complete package. She could kill quick, stay as long as was required and was magic in cover. In a conversation with Alan just a few weeks ago he told me that he could take Dancer out after a long injury lay off (she had been laid off for five weeks prior to killing 4 from 5 when winning her Temple Bruer) bu
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