well got this great gun off kriss and it was just as described kriss is a top person to deal with and is very helpfull to deal with great person,right the gun i got it scoped in yesterday its the smoothest springer ive used and ive had most,it fires very quite and hits its mark with a nice thud hardly any recoil this is a mans gun because of its weigh issue not for weak people ,well on its first outing early this morning i got 2 woodys and a crow im well impressed with this gun and its a keeper thanks again kriss