i had a couple of days out with a man off here who opended my eyes with the way he is with his dogs in work and just the keeping of his dogs the bond he has with all of his dogs not with 1 but all his dogs is secound to none and hope to have a a few good days this season with him am not going to name him but he is the best by far who have had the privelage off sharing a spade with ,cheers d