I had one off him many years ago. Sire was Stormin Norman a half cross over a greyhound Bitch . Beautiful athletic muscular dog 27 tts. Great feet ,retrieve to hand ,would jump ,ferret , great with stock but would not enetertain Charlie . At 2 years old after I don t know how many attempts we called in a little vixen on the lamp to within about 20 yards away. He pulled into his lead and I let him go. He sprinted up to her slammed the anchors on and bayed like a terrier. I gave him to a chap who worked him on deer and kept him till he retired. Shame really I liked the dog . Saying that I ve see