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she looks a belter, good on you and good luck, maybe fate is playing a little part in this story keep us informed please
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are lurcher only any for winter work
birddog replied to members01's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
maybe my lurchers are year round lurchers not part timers, maybe running on slippy frozen ground in winter is worse than well watered golf courses, maybe nature provides these slower (pregnant and young) rabbits to give a young dog confidence or to help feed our baby ferrets, whatever its not black and white its what suits the individual -
are lurcher only any for winter work
birddog replied to members01's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
gotta agree with bbb pest control isn't winter only, whilst out for a walk with the local greenkeeper we'd picked up a dozen rabbits and stopped for a chat with the neighbouring farmer and after commenting on the amount of rabbits coming onto the course from his land the chap agreed to let me help control his, on acres and acres of sandy ground backing onto dunes with a real rabbit problem 10 minutes from home,doesn't get any better. overheating dogs for me aren't a problem if your out at 4am also by being fussy on what burrows are worked iv'e managed 3hrs ferreting and having a coffee (free a -
theres always the old argument that the biggest pups get everything their own way early in life whereas the smallest ( i dont like the term runt) has to fight for everything from the first suckle onwards and tries harder and learns quicker because of this.
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she's looking great mate, she looks a lot like her wee sister who's doing much the same sitting, jumping etc. her retrieving is fairly haphazard though sometimes good sometimes not. i'll get some pics up tomorrow
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not quite so sure mate, many working dogs have bust toes, ruptured tendons, maybe a dropped muscle, the odd scar especially around the ears and in my experience a lot of real, good working dogs have an aura about them almost looking down on lesser dogs, and some of mine are really peeved at having to ponce about at a stupid show when their minds are obviously far away on more important matters. i'd rather sell a puppy to a good honest knowledgable show home than to a messer working home where the pup would be ruined by 8 month old and moved on to end god knows where.
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ive judged a few times over the years always been honest even put up crosses that im not a fan of but they were on the day in my opinion the best, ive gave everyone a fair crack at the whip and spoken to all owner / handlers. at a recent show which was a great day, lots of crack, many old pals, the odd bargain or two at the stalls etc my 13year old entered a genuine working bitch and came out of the ring with a rossette but was really dissapointed, the judge hadn't said a word to him, didn't ask the dogs name, age or breeding, didn't look at the dogs mouth or teeth, didn't look at toes or feet
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good ground for? everybody seeing what your doing, protecting fragile feet, if i wanted to hunt brown hares some of these moors offer scree, heather and ling, rock, boggy reedy marsh and rough open pasture ideal ground in my opinion to test feet, physique, fitness, heart and skill in any dog be it deerhound, lurcher or indeed saluki.
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and the bit about scotland only having small fields. you obviously struggled with geography at school, apart from literally hundreds of glens, what about the miles of open moorland like falkirk muir (moor) remember 1745, eaglesham moor where we coursed in the 70's miles of open land yet on the map its tiny, the carse o gowrie where theres hardly a fence between perth and dundee, go north west the open hills around torridon, shieldaig and applecross would test the best of any breed, go right to the top of the country anywhere on the map that says forest is miles of broken moorland. i could go o
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No they wouldn't our you ladies would still be running deerhound crosses etc. But if a hare out wits a dig for 5,6,7 minutes, I think it deserves to get away. and sometimes they do.. but if its cought after that time ,, the hunter wins and the hunted wasnt good enough to get away!! thats the way it is!!! wether its field /or fen or werever To an extent riohog but if the hunted didn't get away cos there was no where to go then that's a tad unfair in my book. Hare only runs as fast as it's being persued. If you have a slow dog but can run all day, bit inevitable
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treat it like a lurcher and it will act like one i know what your saying mate but some people make out saluki x are stupid,so why would anyone work full saluki well the folk in the middle east have been doing it for several thousand years , and it works for them ,,.......so why not!! think its more to do with being aware of its abilities ,,, give them the oppertunaties ,give them there heads if the instinct is there let em use it ! just a question and dont take it the wrong way if these people in the middle east are so smart whats the news about as in
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cracking looking pup, hold your head up mate youve done a great job . i think its maybe a collie thing, had teething probs wi my 3/8 x 5/8 but nothing like youve had. in my experience the guys who stick it out with these type of probs are the ones who end up with good dogs, too many would have given up. be interesting to watch his progress i'm sure with a couple of seasons experience he'll be a belter
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what the best dog you use when ferreting
birddog replied to izzyrabbits's topic in Ferrets & Ferreting
lot of variables, what type of ground etc. ive used many types from 26'' deerhoundy lurcher to lurcher types to whippets (non peddy of course) and currently use a 3/8 collie x 5/8 greyhound and she's ace. for me the important thing is experience whatever you decide on it'll get better and better the more it's out, for what it's worth i think a wee bit of collie in them helps them pick up the wee tricks o the trade a wee bit quicker. hope it helps good luck -
thanks for the kind words guys, now comes the hard work eh! it would be good if any of the rest of the litter's new owners could get a pic or two up. bob youve had your jacket mate its on ebay :icon_redface:
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humility there is much to learn young grasshopper
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agree entirely with your sentiment but would it have been sold to some idiot in the 1st place if it was a 'good dog'?
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what no retrieving house/car/kennel manners breeding / bloodlines jumping coat conformation constitution guarding ability speed herding instinct the list could go on. truth is its not bs its diferent strokes for diferent folks I didn't mean to be insulting with what i wrote. Just there is a difference between a 'good dog' and a 'good dog to you'. While we might all have slightly different needs, desires and standards, there is a basic starting point with a running dog. didn't take it as insulting but surely any good lurcher should have speed, retrieving and jum
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what no retrieving house/car/kennel manners breeding / bloodlines jumping coat conformation constitution guarding ability speed herding instinct the list could go on. truth is its not bs its diferent strokes for diferent folks
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i have a similar bred bitch and have thought about this a lot, but as well as picking a stud to improve your bitch youve gotta think of the land and quarry you hunt, but i think the most important thing is youve (and me too) gotta be honest about whats good and bad in your bitch and what you really want in a pup, then youv'e gotta find maybe 8 other people looking for the same in a pup or you could end up with a few pups leftover. the well tested greyhound collie / greyhound deerhound mix might work well but do you use a 1st or 2nd cross or even a pure deerhound, i also fancy a beddy cross but
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cheers jan, you have experience of this line she's not going to be smooth wots your bet rough or broken
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one of dvdski greyhound deerhound type as seen on here a couple of weeks ago
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a few pics of latest pup for att. of kev, jan, bob or anyone else interested been here nearly 2 weeks now, being the smallest in the litter she seemed a wee bit shy and nervy to start with and wasn't the best eater but hey what a difference in 10 days an inch and a half taller and almost doubled her weight she's now coming to her name most of the time, sits on command for treats, walking on a lead no probs, asking out for toilet and sleeping most of the night she'll carry almost anything and has just about got the fetch sussed been ace with the lighter coloured ferts but her an
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Coursing Dogs & Non - Ped Whippets.
birddog replied to chartpolski's topic in Lurchers & Running Dogs
Back many years ago, when I had Non-Peds, here "up North" we had a 21" limit, and some clubs had no limit; as long as the dog went in the trap, it raced. These were always time trial handicaps. "Down South" they went more for the yards per pound, and if a pup went over the 32lb limit, and had a bit of speed about it, they were sent north; Daisy, Robbo, Tiger Bay, and many more great Scratch dogs that went "over", came up here. When Whippet racing started dying off, the BWRA definately sold their souls and lifted their limit to 55lb. This was to accomadate the Whippet/Greyhound 1st crosses that -
much easier to get a good doer down a few pounds to running wieght than to get a poor one up there when it won't eat anything. let your pup put on a wee bit, keep her active in the park and her batteries will be fully charged a ready to go at stubble time