Born Hunter
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Ah right, so when you said "We've known for a year now that it's man made" you actually meant, "it's possible it's man made if it's not a hoax, i havent decided yet"...
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Yes. Gene sequencing? Electron microscope imagery? Epidemiological data that supports the presence of a novel infectious pathogen? Have you decided which claim of yours was wrong yet?
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Because sufficient evidence hasn't been presented yet. As far as im concerned the CCP are an enemy of the West, regardless of if they had a biosecurity breach. My point is. Im not ignorant or dismissive of the theory. I shared with the site the most credible voice of it back in November!
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No idea. I haven't looked into her at all hence why I made no comment on the original post on her. I don't know, I wasn't willing to find out, so I have no place arguing against her views or arguing with her views.
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Well real life is complicated. Lol. I'll not water it down to please folk.
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Point of fact, I listened to Bret Weinstein argue for gain of function lab origin and even posted it on here back in November. Im not convinced at this point.
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Woah! Born hasn't made any conclusive claims on its origin. There is a subtle but hugely important difference between "don't know" and "was not". Im inclined to believe natural mutation is most likely but its still up for grabs. The existence of the virus is not. It exists, conclusively.
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And you had the bare faced cheek to tell me I side stepped! Is it only me that has to show the respect of answering questions? You've claimed both, and yet they're mutually exclusive... whos all over the place again? LOL Given the virus does exist, and the origin is still inconclusive, man made is more likely than doesn't exist.
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So, are you going with man made or doesn't exist?
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That's marginally more impressive than "sometimes you need to ignore the science" which is what you said last time you didn't have an answer. After trying to quote science that suits! LOL
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I've answered every question you've directed at me. And no I don't accept it's man made yet. Im not at all surprised that you now do. And FYI, you have contradicted yourself. You have claimed it's man made and now again claim "there is no virus".
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Less than a year ago you were still starting sentences with "if the virus even is real". So don't give us that. Now it's convenient to your narrative for it to be real you've decided it's real.
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Unlikely. I'd accept the solution of those who I believe understand astrophysics and want what I want. There's no even vaguely plausible claims that Oxford or BioNTech manufactured SARS-2 imo.
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You told me to show you proof that the virus had been 'isolated' after you made the assertion that it hasn't. If you can't tell me what proof is then how can I be expected to provide it?
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Still waiting for you to tell me what is the threshold for proof on 'isolating the virus'...
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I think people are very interested in it's origins. But it's origin doesn't impact how we deal with it, only how we deal with future pandemics. It's a virus, and is subject to the same laws of nature. Saying it might not be would be like saying a comet that is on a course to hit us might not because it's new and so might not be affected by gravity like every other comet before it.
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Such a thing would still be a replicating genetic particle like any other virus or organism, which means it mutates and is subject to natural selection. So yes, to my understanding.
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What constitutes proof to you?
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Wilf, you do realise that they haven't isolated the virus yet don't you! LOL
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Mutations happen to any genetic 'thing'. FYI viruses aren't considered 'life' but are made of the building blocks of life, DNA. Immunity in the host species against one but not others will force natural selection to favour the others and so they will have a competitive advantage and go on to be the dominant strain. Of course vaccination isn't the only method of achieving immunity, so all vaccination is doing is forcing selection to occur sooner and without the price of deaths that allowing immunity to be achieved naturally would cost. Vaccination isn't causing mutations. It's simply
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Well one had to be! Again, it’s meaningless on its own.
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It's a meaningless number unless you understand what that equates to in elevated dose. Which is a metric ton of f**k all.
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Let's just straighten something out. The water that is 'dumped' into the sea has gone through decontamination to the point where there's so few radioactive particles left in it they can't get them out. It's radioactivity is tiny. They then mix it in a sea of water to dilute to a tiny percentage of tiny. Claims that the seabed would be classed as low level radioactive waste would be found laughable by anyone who's worked in radiation safety. We've got a bucket of sand from some desert somewhere, naturally occurring sand that just so happens to have a touch of radioactivity to it making it
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It literally doesn't matter at the levels that we're talking about.
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The dose you would receive from eating heaps of Irish sea fish is tiny compared to annual dose from background radiation. But shit, no one knows a f***ing thing about radiation so it's another breeding ground for sensationalism. Lol
