Absolutely Phil. It's finding the fecker that's the problem. Thats the reasoning behind my search for 3/4 whippet-it will be fast enough but retain a little sagacity with a dash of cur. I may still go with a whippet yet or maybe a dash of terrier if not. I've trained sight hounds to a decent obedience level in the past, so why not. Shame about the recent litter on the other site, crackers. hey ho if you aint in, you aint in ...