Ive seen 3 of his breeding {tumblers],dont know the man personally ,he judged a show at Welling borough I attended years ago ,I didnt think much of the {tumblers],they looked like Husky crosses, and curiously ,I was told that one of his friends breeds Huskies,,a guy in our coursing club had oneof his dogs ,it was too heavy for coursing ,agressive ,even with bitches yet wouldnt go in on foxes ,it would course them,bending them over and over ,but refusing to tackle them,a friend of mine went to view a litter many moons ago ,he said their were dogs in cupboards and under shelves in the house,h