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gnasher16

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  1. The only reason im putting humans and dogs in the same sentance is because we understand the complexities of nature within human beings and how some people are born bad and some are born with no bad bone in their body whatsoever........but that could be pretty much any form of life not just humans/dogs......what im comparing is nature itself not certain species within the natural world......nature itself throws up imperfections within every species.......DOGS ARE NO DIFFERENT !....so to say dogs only bite people because of the environment they are raised is basically wrong,and very naive to th
  2. What you are dealing with here is human nature.....if you push peoples loyalties long and hard enough they will eventually turn.......ive said for many years theres only so much people will take,what we are seeing today is people with no racially hateful bones in their body 20 years ago,being called racists in todays society for the simple reason that they have had enough ! I remember growing up in east london with plenty of black pals,and still have to this day.....what we would call " cockney blacks "....in other words they were the same as us just a different colour......we could all la
  3. You lads make me laugh....if not for Ashley you might not even be a football club any more,as you rightly say,he took away your debt when he bought the club not even knowing there was any !!....The man is a billionaire buisenessman,do folk really think they know better than he does when it comes to finances......The trouble when you sell a football club to a buisenessman is you are basically selling out on the game,if Mike Ashley decided to sell the entire first team and replace them with 11 factory workers thats his call......my belief is he will run that club from a buiseness point of view o
  4. Its a ridiculous statement to make my friend.....its like saying all people will react with violence if pushed,they wont !!.....some dogs are placid BY NATURE.......what you are saying is just a romantic notion that has no truth whatsoever......some dogs you could kick punch and completely mistreat they will not even raise a lip because its simply not in them to do so.......nature is not robotic it doesnt produce like for like within any species.
  5. lads lads lads......you really are overcomplicating this.......look,you can relate to Darwin,read scientific books,or come up with all the long words you like.......the FACT is,nature throws up things WE as mere humans cannot control.....use common sense,if we were fully responsible for the temperament and characteristics of dogs then we would all breed perfect dogs all of the time......we cant and we wont !..... so many people learn about breeding and genetics through books.....its great to have some understanding of genetics from studying books but as so often happens in other areas of l
  6. Dogs,People,Fish,Birds,Spiders......its called the laws of nature mate .....and we all live by them regardless of species.
  7. I,ll make it simple for you.......do you believe ALL people are capable of killing another person if subject to the right provocation ?..........no of course they are not,there are some people who just simply do not have the core capability within them to retaliate with extreme violence. Same thing different species.
  8. No its full steam ahead now lads,we got our little Freddie Sears back and Carlton Coles taken his head out of his arse at last....must admit that Tim Cahill worries me he looks a class act and we,re not exactly robust at the back.....but heart before head for me a 2-1 home win Anytime your down this way let me know i dont live in the shithole anymore but have a few interests locally so am always about If any of yous fancy a little cyberwager....be my guest.
  9. Your not undestanding what im saying.....not all dogs have the capability to bite a human,some just dont have it in them.....BUT....we dont know which dogs these are so to leave a child alone with ANY dog is wrong. Its like saying all people are capable of killing somebody with their bare hands simply because all people have hands !!....they are not,some people just dont have it in them to kill a person no matter what the provocation......do we know which people these are ? no of course we dont until such occasions arise. I wouldnt assume a dog wouldnt bite either......but i still know that
  10. Gamedog breeders stick to a certain line for a variety of reasons.....its generally accepted breeding principal that dogs will always revert back to the average of what a line has to offer.....what this means in reality is predictability.....the main reason for inbreeding within a line is to cut down on the amount of variables within what a line can produce meaning the traits both desirable and undesirable become easier to predict. So if an inbred dog is highly aggressive it must have been a total fool who bred for it.....by rights the more you inbreed the more aggression you lose due to a lo
  11. Come on i know theres a few here somewhere ......any of you Everton chaps heading down to East London tomorrow night ? You,ll be sent home with your tail between your legs im sure ....but if you fancy seeing the sights before you go be sure to drop me a line West Ham 2 Everton 1 .....
  12. Thats exactly what im saying,its neither !...if its genetic its passed on,meaning somewhere along the line at least 1 ancestor at some stage had to be a carrier........but what if none existed ?...........if its psycological,it would mean the dog has experienced " something " that has formed an unnatural emotional characteristic within that dog.....again,but what if none existed ? So,what does that leave ?.....The law of nature,thats what it leaves....and the laws of nature are not always fair or pleasant. Its about time us as students of dogs and dog breeding realised that not everyth
  13. Despite what folk think,not all players go after money....within a year Andy Carrol will be a rich man,yes he could move clubs and be more rich....but most times a player moves clubs to push himself and test himself at the highest level.I think Carrol will move at some stage as very few top players spend their whole career at one club unless its a top club. There was a time when international football was the big test to a player but no more,the big test for a player like Carrol will be holding a place in a Man Utd,Liverpool or Chelsea first team and scoring consistently at Champions league l
  14. Nearly all.....where do those dogs/people/birds/fish come from who are neither a product of their genetic inheritance OR a product of their environment ?......commonly described as the genetic freaks. If a dog is not bred down off manbiters anywhere in its background and was not raised in a bad environment yet it attacks/kills a human....where does this streak of viciousness come from the moon ?
  15. Whatever anthropomorphism means i neither know or care.......what i do know is a dog that kills a human being is a bad dog within the confines of what as human beings in the world we live in make judgement......now while i accept that a dog wont necessarily see this as " bad " it certainly doesnt come natural to a domestic dog to kill a human the way it would come natural to a wild lion !....so within the world we live we can safely assume a dog that kills a human is bad !..... What we are discussing here is the reasons for it and the good old nature versus nurture debate.......i believe that
  16. Of course i wouldnt,i cant read a dogs mind so i use the common sense approach as i explained.....but to say ALL dogs are capable of biting is plain wrong.....they are not,we just dont know which ones would and which wouldnt hence safety is best.
  17. Its called learned behaviour.....dogs do not make decisions based on right or wrong,they operate out of learned behaviour based on what they know/have been taught by us or have been genetically handed down. Mauling a human being to death is not learned behaviour and is not genetically handed down....so where does it come from ?......some dogs or people for that matter are born with rare and unexplainable talents and qualities,just the same as some are born with rare and unexplainable faults be it physical or mental.....genetic freaks would be another name for them...... to think bad dogs d
  18. Ol yeah good point i never thought of that.....unlike our mob down the Hammers,new owners and stuck with the same crappy manager As regards Benitez though he seemed a shrewd tactician and certainly knew the game,if not the players who play it id like to see him back over here he was a good character.
  19. Absolute nonsense !.....so are we to believe that ALL serial killers had a bad upbringing ?...that it was their parents fault ?...that absolutely NO human beings are born evil ?......only the completely naive would simply assume that a dog is bad because of its environment ! How do i contradict my first paragraph with my second ?.....my first paragraph explains that anything born of nature has the capability to be bad,my second paragraph explains that something born bad in the wrong hands is likely to SHOW that badness..... IF a dog has natural badness within its genetic makeup it wont
  20. Cant see it....it would be like admitting they f****d up letting him go in the first place,and big football clubs dont like admitting they f****d up !
  21. I understand what your saying here but the reality is you cant expect one without the other.....dog matching is illegal,yet the reality is the only TRUE american pit bull terrier is the game fighting dogs that make up probably around 5% of the breed wordlwide....and it is this 5% of the breed that are the only apbt,s i would trust !!.....the 95% of the breed you see walking the streets today are not true representatives of the breed as they are not bred from game fighting stock......the further away from the pit you breed these dogs the worse they get.....so in reality,you cant really breed tr
  22. Whoever coined the phrase " No bad dogs just bad owners " must have been the most naive,gullible fool ever to own a dog !....I cant believe in todays times people can still believe that ALL bad dogs are products of a bad owner..... ANYTHING born of nature has the capability to be born good or bad thats just the laws of nature.....you get bad examples of pigeons,bad examples of fish,bad examples of spiders,bad examples of human beings......but wait....its not possible to have a bad example of a dog ... When you get a highly strung breed of dog that is full of energy and tenacious drive an
  23. Of those ive seen Mike Reid is my favourite,Jimmy Jones was good also.....couldnt stand Chubby Brown thought he was pathetic the word Cxxt loses its effect when its said every 7 words ! Of those i didnt see Tommy Cooper was a genius of his time and very funny man
  24. I understand any sportsman who reaches the top of his sport is gifted.....i just fail to see where the skill is in riding a horse.....i admit im totally ignorant to the sport,i know nothing about it at all......im just throwing a few thoughts round in my own nut about it thats all......so your probably right in all you say Im not altogether convinced on sportsman becoming greats in sports where the equipment is as important,if not more important as the sportsman himself.....Motor sport,Horses etc
  25. But thats my whole point,what is the gift it takes to ride a horse ?....how much skill does it take ?....im not being a prick saying its easy or it dont take any skill....im sure it does.....but come on,do you really think a skill such as Ali was blessed with can be compared with the skill a jockey may have....i admit im probably quite ignorant to exactly what is needed to be a great jockey.....but i cant help thinking its not on the same level skill wise as many other sports.
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