The truth of the matter is that despite us having alot of funds between us and huge numbers, we sat back with our heads in the sand to await leadership...the antis on the other hand are not that daft...they could see that the way to pass legislayion was to "pay" MP's as advisors in order to get them onside.....its not the MP's fault, its our own i guess for we have just watched it happen...the CA should have also paid for advisors, pledging to DOUBLE whatever the animal welfare groups have offered....but, alas, ita all water under the bridge now antway....what a depressing topic... JD