a grown red is massive i cd love to see a dog try hold one on its own ,cant see it happenin myself ,it would have to be a BIG dog and a red is fast so the dog needs speed and size and any dog that done reds pre ban would have a lost a lot of teeth in a short time tryin to hold a red
thats why scent in my opinion you generally need 4 good big fast dogs that also are very strong. a big red can stand 4 foot tall and weigh over 400 hundred pounds so even 4 pound bull crosses are out matched
iv tried it (by accident) and saw whay my dog is cappable but id prefer foxes myself i could do it e