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Squirrel_Basher

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  1. Not involved with hunting anymore but used to find that totally ignoring them was quite satisfying .Revving the quad when they spoke was as well .Could tell some tales here but commen sense tells me to keep stu^m.When you think of all the hunting activity that happens during the season we really do have a professional hunt service monitored week in week out by the crazy gang .Fair play to the guys on vid ,shes a bitch and make no mistake .Wasnt too amused when terrierman span the quad round and plastered her in shit though,oh we laughed.
  2. Wouldnt describe it quite like that but near enough
  3. For anyone starting on a program i would take some advice i was given years ago and use a totally unrelated dog at some time early on to cover a bitch then start another line running alongside the first .It certainly stopped me from losing it altogether with this eye thing .Hope this is clear as reading it back it sounds complicated .
  4. I lost the bull heads at first then introduced a half cross bull pat to better them which i still have in them now,square fronts and strong backs .Working style they are harder than most would like and harder than the base stock, through introduction of old style Wheeler ,something which i dont mind saying im keen to preserve .4 years ago bred two litter on the trot which are carbon copies of what i started with .In my kennels i have a bitch from the last mating ,a decent head on her out of a Stevens x GM dog to a brood bitch ,rough coat and a bitch from six years ago with the same head but s
  5. Yes mate ,either get hold of a closely related dog to the one lost or source a dog from working lines and test it .When satisfied put him over the bitch then back over a bitch from that mating provided she is tested too.Base stock is preferably related but as long as it from a producing line youll have to take a chance they gell .Its not no good churning out pups in the hope one will work ,breed a litter and test it and if the base dog is then too old you need to look to a younger brother or tested son . .Best undertaken with a couple of honest mates i think as it saves the need to kennel t
  6. Good post mate .Not to undo it in any way but starting with the right stock is everything .You cannot put in what is not there in the first place .Ive no doubt some lads have turned round mediocre dogs by selective breeding but using a base from a line already in existance ,and lets face it there are plenty you can minimise wastage and be confident in what you are doing .Im the first to admit the hard work was done for me when i started with two old style Nuttal bitches and a non descript dog from a long line of producers .That would be the way to start for anyone thinking of starting a line t
  7. Just been sent vid ,only on thl.If thats him ,good riddance
  8. Yep but none the wiser .Pm if you prefer as we were just getting to know each other .
  9. Just been informed the op has been banned off site .Did i miss something?
  10. Any time you fancy a dig we can discuss the matter mate .i have plenty to go at and ill even bring the dogs if your concerned about where we will put them .I will explain each dogs pedigree to you and how,why it was arrived at .If you are a bit dim i will tell you have no worries ,a spade is a spade after all.Its now clear from your posts that you know a bit more than i first gave you credit for .However knowing is only ever half the job ,putting it into practice is another as is culling what you know is a failure .What you failed to explain in your opening post ,you write of a strain achieve
  11. listen my friend would you have the balls to speak to someone like you do face to face or do you just let insults flow of the computer, line breeding might be inbreeding with a plan to you but what most people think of that as grandfather to grandaughter or uncle to niece breeding where i am talking about intense inbreeding as in what they do with pit dogs, game fowl, the jersey cow , and as they intensely inbred the stock improves and yes as you say you do have to adapt if things start to go wrong but i cant talk to you anymore. you are the sort of person that thinks he is put on the earth to
  12. What youve described is the basic start to a LINE,mate but what about a backup if this goes tits up .Smart lads have another underlying plan to fall back on should your stud not be what it is on paper ,dosnt gell with bitch or gets killed .I fully understand the need for knowledge but a little can be harmful .Better to spend time with a lad thats doing it ,look at his pedigree and see what worked .
  13. look mate,You can inbreed for years ,decades to produce what we call a line .The overall planned breeding thats gets you to where you are now is known by the whole dog world as LINEBREEDING .Get that word in your head and we can discuss ,almost like adults but keep calling it inbreeding and the insults will flow .
  14. If a lad is starting out which i believe is the knowledge required then the dog used should be line bred and be throwing consistent workers .To start with a scatter bred is to court failure from day one .Just as well use a farm collie .The bitch to a foundation stock should from the same line or close .The bitch pups from this first mating will be your broods and put back to the base dog .What you do then is personal preference but always look to the base dog for continuation.look to the future as nothing lives forever and studs need replacing .Lots more to it but im not writing a book just ye
  15. At the risk of getting a pasting from froggy whatsit ,the dogs linage is everything ,A bitch becomes one of your broods providing she is tested and of sound temperament.A dog that consistently throws workers is the foundation to all good lines .Starting out ,the advice of the breeder should be followed to the letter but as you move on,youll get to know what works over what .STARTING FROM SCRATCH WITH AN UNKNOWN IS POT LUCK AND IMO A WASTE OF RESOURCE AND TIME[YEARS ] Im not arguing im discussing this with before you jump too it, It does not matter which way round you do it as both parents
  16. Lets get this straight .You say Gouldy bred the base stock to most most black dogs that work .Must of missed that bit of history mate ,Too busy breeding my own .You have obviously been infuenced by someone to the point of brainwash .All he did was take a line and continue it which is what many lads have done .
  17. At the risk of getting a pasting from froggy whatsit ,the dogs linage is everything ,A bitch becomes one of your broods providing she is tested and of sound temperament.A dog that consistently throws workers is the foundation to all good lines .Starting out ,the advice of the breeder should be followed to the letter but as you move on,youll get to know what works over what .STARTING FROM SCRATCH WITH AN UNKNOWN IS POT LUCK AND IMO A WASTE OF RESOURCE AND TIME[YEARS ]
  18. I said i was done here but this fool is winding me up .Inbreeding is the mating of ANY related animals.Line breeding is the controlled version of this . Father to daughter is the base start line .what you do thereafter is down to to what your aims are . Your origin of the black dog is a few decades out too.Probably down to your age and those you look up to.
  19. Got the meaure of you from the outset pal and its clear your not too far advanced in the brain area .I wont be explaining anything as its clear to me you are one of those twats that knows it all and seeks to educate those who really do know far more about it than your ever likely to.last post on the issue
  20. You need a planof what you aim you aim to achieve and how to go about it but need to adapt as things move on .Been doing it 27 years so i might know a bit by now.lol.The main thing is keeping records as to what gelled with what and how to produce that again and again.Recessive genes work both ways producing good workers as well as misfits when the match is slightly wrong .inbreeding as i see it is the unintention union of related animals.
  21. Your talking a load of bollocks mate which is why i never went ito too deep .
  22. Your wording is all wrong mate.Im hoping this isnt wasted on you but here goes .Inbreeding is a term used by those who do not understand linedreeding.To go into it would be too much too soon for you i feel insofar as to say outcrossing is very necessary to stop blood becoming too tight ,as long as you know as much about the outcross as the man that bred him and it owes at least one trace to your own .To stay too tight has the unfortunate drawback of excentuating defects that come to the forefront through recessive genes and usually spells the end of further linebreeding .Record keeping is a
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