But you have been one of the main culprits the last couple year banging on about peds and that. When the truth is your listening to bunch of mongs from this side filling ya with shit on peds and put another mans name to dogs that they have bred some of ye have even gone as far as to set up a a patterdale pedigree data base ffs and there dogs on it not bred by the names ye put on them and havnt the dogs behind them on some of there history. There was a lad sold ya pup genuinely out that line and when he wouldnt give ya a full history on the parents ya caused mayhem and then threatened to have t