With the stuff i had hear to be honest just wouldnt reproduce some good dogs in the there. Worker to worker with plenty breeding both sides i put false peds sammy to very good bitch here and never reproduced. Looking back now there was plenty good stuff been worked with plenty breeding in them but it didnt produce the percentages expected. Il just go of my old dog didnt mate to whole lot but what i did put to him to didnt really throw. He was put to a bull bitch with lees breeding that threw up workers mate mine kept back bitch we done plenty digging with her not the hardest bitch but dug p