Lenmcharristar 10,654 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rabbit Hunter said: I agree, but going by what’s getting said on here I should only breed off the older one? If they’re both seasoned workers then are they not both worth breeding from? Quote Link to post
howdeeposxxt 1,449 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, foxdropper said: I agree totally with you mate .Ive always put best to best IMO but looking back there have been a few that maybe should have had a litter .No regrets on dogs used at all just a few bitches I never lined . Unfortunately that comes with the game it's a game of its and buts what I can't stand is the boys breeding for money and using this excuse """o well his brother is bred the same way so it should prosper " the way I see it breed your best dogs in the yard ya can't do any better than that. 5 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said: If they’re both seasoned workers then are they not both worth breeding from? Yes of course in my eyes they are, but I was more getting at other lads on here saying only breed from the best. Quote Link to post
howdeeposxxt 1,449 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 R.H I only breed from the best in my yard I don't have a covahor belt of pups every year so to me it makes sense to breed from my best terrier but if a man feels the need to breed every year he ain't producing to a high standard Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,530 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) If it was as easy a 2+2 = 4 we'd all have a yard of legends, it's all a gamble, you're just shortening the odds in your favour. I've had the privilege of owning some fantastic terriers over the years, some that outshone their siblings and anything else on the bank. I've found in this line ( the only one I've got experience of ) there's no 100% guarantee that you'll get the best from the best. Perhaps that's a poor way of putting it but without writing a book I'll have to keep it simple. I've had two or three examples in my lifetime where the lesser of the two siblings ended up being the better producer. That's the joy of keeping a line, you see the same traits popping up and you can keep breeding to the extended family. I would always breed from the best, we've only got one lifetime so you'd be daft not to BUT ...don't discount the brother or sister to the apple of your eye, same blood and in the grand scheme of things it has the exact same chance of throwing what you're looking for. It's all a gamble, genetics is a lottery with no guarantees, and no, before you ask I wouldn't breed from a shite hound, but maybe from a good dog that's not quite the legend his brother, sister, father or mother is. Edited February 10, 2019 by dillydog 9 Quote Link to post
Rabbit Hunter 6,613 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) How Deep I’ve never bred a litter from a bitch of my own so I’m in the same boat. My eldest dog has been over 2 bitches so that’s the closest I’ve come to breeding. Edited February 10, 2019 by Rabbit Hunter Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,104 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 35 minutes ago, howdeeposxxt said: R.H I only breed from the best in my yard I don't have a covahor belt of pups every year so to me it makes sense to breed from my best terrier but if a man feels the need to breed every year he ain't producing to a high standard Could be said that to find your best producers you need to breed ,test then breed some more .Once the ingredience are there then it’s time to breed selectively and with a goal in mind .Which brings us back to good mates and trust ,an issue that seems greater than just breeding the right stuff . 4 Quote Link to post
Mixedgrill 704 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, howdeeposxxt said: R.H I only breed from the best in my yard I don't have a covahor belt of pups every year so to me it makes sense to breed from my best terrier but if a man feels the need to breed every year he ain't producing to a high standard That’s a load of ️️ you need a litter coming through every year... so what happens if you lose a few dogs real top class dog and bitch say six year old and you’ve nothing off them your yard will not be long taken a serious hit 1 Quote Link to post
Glyn..... 5,235 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) anyway 5 foot dig today and i'm off to wash the mud off Edited February 11, 2019 by Glyn..... 10 Quote Link to post
Apache... 2,588 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 What's the difference between a superstar and a good honest genuine worker??? Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,530 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 About £500 7 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,104 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, Mixedgrill said: That’s a load of ️️ you need a litter coming through every year... so what happens if you lose a few dogs real top class dog and bitch say six year old and you’ve nothing off them your yard will not be long taken a serious hit You don’t need to breed every year either mate .Only when needs must and if your stock is getting on a bit then needs must ,if a few decent mates want one then needs must but to breed every year isnt necessary at all IMO 1 Quote Link to post
mr powers 876 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 U never no [BANNED TEXT] youve got till its gone 1 Quote Link to post
dillydog 8,530 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Apache... said: What's the difference between a superstar and a good honest genuine worker??? I don't for one second think you don't already know, the legend is a dog IMO that just wants to graft no matter what. Maybe he (or she) is already sore but needs must and you've got a job to do and this particular animal will go and go regardless. Perhaps it's the old faithful that puts a dig right time after time when others have failed. Perhaps it's the terrier that finds the game when it's given the other the runaround for a few hours and it's dug itself in tight. We've all got our own ideas of what makes the perfect terrier, the best way I could say it is you'll know it when you see it. 8 2 Quote Link to post
howdeeposxxt 1,449 Posted February 10, 2019 Report Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mixedgrill said: That’s a load of ️️ you need a litter coming through every year... so what happens if you lose a few dogs real top class dog and bitch say six year old and you’ve nothing off them your yard will not be long taken a serious hit IMO you do not need a litter every year if so then you have too many terriers that you cannot work week in week out and see what you really and truly have unless you get an awfully lot a digging. People who breed so often either sell or have not been so happy with the last litter Edited February 10, 2019 by howdeeposxxt 2 Quote Link to post
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