Israel 1 , Iran 0.

[mC HULL 18,338]

35 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Why didn’t Putin say “no, I’m not letting oil flow and the price of oil will go through the roof and the American and European people will demand the war stops” ????

Ill tell you you why; Russia’s economy is at rock bottom, Putin can’t pay for his own war with Ukraine, he’s not getting matériels from Iran, China has it’s own problems as it gets 90% of its oil through the Strait of Hormuz and will not be as supportive of Russia while the oil blockage is in force.

Trump had the choice of letting world oil price skyrocket because of shortage and risk the wrath of Americans seeing the cost of filling their cars up or let Russia export oil and steady the cost of world oil supply. He chose the latter, reasoning that lifting the embargo for THIRTY DAYS gives him time to win the war and he will reinstate the embargo and Putin can do nothing about it.

Factor in that Trump then bombed Kharg Island, where Iran exports 90% of its oil from, mainly to China, destroying the military facilities but leaving in place the oil terminal infrastructure, and 5,000 US Marines and the US Tripoli group is on on their way to Kharg, while Europe gets more oil, curtesy of Russia, Iran can’t export 90% of its oil and China gets most of its oil cut off ! 
China then demands the Strait of Homuz opens up so it can get its oil, which will be controlled by America.

Looks like Trump has played a blinder

Just the way I see it.

Cheers.

 

Good post i agree with a lot but russia will.have surplus and its high priced so.its a win for them but like wilf said it will.make the eu see who's boss who's dollar decides whats what  because she were gettjng close to  china aswell commie eu must be spewing 

[WILF 52,811]

2 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

Good post i agree with a lot but russia will.have surplus and its high priced so.its a win for them but like wilf said it will.make the eu see who's boss who's dollar decides whats what  because she were gettjng close to  china aswell commie eu must be spewing 

Spewing is right and the only people they can punish to keep their ideology going is us…..I wonder what we will do about it ?

Edited yesterday at 10:28 by WILF

[chartpolski 29,779]

1 minute ago, mC HULL said:

Good post i agree with a lot but russia will.have surplus and its high priced so.its a win for them but like wilf said it will.make the eu see who's boss who's dollar decides whats what  because she were gettjng close to  china aswell commie eu must be spewing 

I see it more as a temporary relief than a win for Russia.

Trump imposed the embargo, has now lifted it for thirty days and will most likely re-impose it. There’s nothing Putin can do about it.

Theres still a lot of moves to go on the great chess board , and , as I am a very poor chess player, I’ve many a time said “ I didn’t see that coming !”

I’ll be an interested bystander and watch with interest and see how it pans out

Cheers.

[mel b 4,848]

1 hour ago, chartpolski said:

Why didn’t Putin say “no, I’m not letting oil flow and the price of oil will go through the roof and the American and European people will demand the war stops” ????

Ill tell you you why; Russia’s economy is at rock bottom, Putin can’t pay for his own war with Ukraine, he’s not getting matériels from Iran, China has it’s own problems as it gets 90% of its oil through the Strait of Hormuz and will not be as supportive of Russia while the oil blockage is in force.

Trump had the choice of letting world oil price skyrocket because of shortage and risk the wrath of Americans seeing the cost of filling their cars up or let Russia export oil and steady the cost of world oil supply. He chose the latter, reasoning that lifting the embargo for THIRTY DAYS gives him time to win the war and he will reinstate the embargo and Putin can do nothing about it.

Factor in that Trump then bombed Kharg Island, where Iran exports 90% of its oil from, mainly to China, destroying the military facilities but leaving in place the oil terminal infrastructure, and 5,000 US Marines and the US Tripoli group is on on their way to Kharg, while Europe gets more oil, curtesy of Russia, Iran can’t export 90% of its oil and China gets most of its oil cut off ! 
China then demands the Strait of Homuz opens up so it can get its oil, which will be controlled by America.

Looks like Trump has played a blinder

Just the way I see it.

Cheers.

 

I understand very little of world politics , but that makes perfect sense charts. Thankyou  .

[Halfhound 1,098]

1 hour ago, WILF said:

Our day will come……but not until 9:30 and we will be 5 minutes late ! lol 

You’ll be there WILF

[mackay 3,845]

2 hours ago, chartpolski said:

When someone on here suggested putting 4p on income tax to fund defence I suggested it might be better to stop overseas aid, stop paying billions to house and feed illegal immigrants, don’t pay billions to give away the Chagos islands, that would be a good start

Cheers.

Not really rocker science, and when mere plebs like us can see it, then you've got to question why they don't. Only real reason can be that it's intentionally orchestrated.

[Arry 26,891]

Starmer rushes HMS Dragon out to Cypress to defend our air base there. Two weeks before it set sail and now three days to reach Lands End. Are they rowing it there or did they leave the engine in dry dock and put an outboard on the back of it.

Its bloody embarrassing. 

Cheers Arry

[WILF 52,811]

1 hour ago, Halfhound said:

You’ll be there WILF

I’ll make sure I’m there before or after lunch otherwise you’ll be closed ! lol 

[Bangersanmash 7,289]

f****n poor Scarborough has become unrecognisable. Just pulled up with the Mrs.  Walked down the main strip from the carpark side of sports direct. f***ing Romanians everywhere honest to f**k. Them nice apartments around the carpark full of the c**ts. On my way back home. Full of junkie c**ts and foreign b*****ds. 

Edited yesterday at 13:34 by Bangersanmash

[WataWalloper 5,213]

10 minutes ago, Bangersanmash said:

f****n poor Scarborough has become unrecognisable. Just pulled up with the Mrs.  Walked down the main strip from the carpark side of sports direct. f***ing Romanians everywhere honest to f**k. Them nice apartments around the carpark full of the c**ts. On my way back home. Full of junkie c**ts and foreign b*****ds. 

Been like that a few years now there, sad as fcuk 

[Bangersanmash 7,289]

5 minutes ago, WataWalloper said:

Been like that a few years now there, sad as fcuk 

Honest to god upset me to f**k. The c**ts will be pickpocketing all the old uns. Many that are blinded from these type of c**ts. Due to not getting out much. Nice ride over to what was our beautiful coastal sides. The c**ts down London have ruined up here. Don't give a f**k the yuppy c**ts because they ruined their areas years and years ago with foreign c**ts. 

[Born Hunter 18,066]

4 hours ago, chartpolski said:

When someone on here suggested putting 4p on income tax to fund defence I suggested it might be better to stop overseas aid, stop paying billions to house and feed illegal immigrants, don’t pay billions to give away the Chagos islands, that would be a good start

Cheers.

Then you missed my point. 

[Born Hunter 18,066]

There is simply not the political will from the government or the electorate to pay for a military proportionate to our expectations. Using a doubling of income tax was a simple example for what would be needed. Yes of course alternatively you could pay for it by diverting funds from other spending or find efficiencies but I find that frankly lazy because it’s proven no more doable than raising taxes. Even if all that could be done you would then be faced with the same political dilemma we face with every other budget/tax scenario, e.g., “spend it on anything other than defence”.

The British do not have the stomach for the military they expect.

[chartpolski 29,779]

12 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

Then you missed my point. 

I wasn’t looking for a point, I was simply offering alternatives

I didn’t think the burden should fall on the taxpayer when so much money, in my opinion, is thrown away by politicians.

Cheers.

[Bangersanmash 7,289]

3 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I wasn’t looking for a point, I was simply offering alternatives

I didn’t think the burden should fall on the taxpayer when so much money, in my opinion, is thrown away by politicians.

Cheers.

A can speyk diabolical send him off. Talking about politicians FFS.