Reform

[mackem 31,768]

The Rubin Report podcast I just put up mentions reform are now a diluted Conservative Party,started out well but…….

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1 hour ago, mackem said:

The Rubin Report podcast I just put up mentions reform are now a diluted Conservative Party,started out well but…….

Well you would have to be blind to not see that.more deception from the scum that really run this 3rd world country.

[chartpolski 29,814]

Reform have asked for an explanation as to why their polling by YouGov is consistently below every other polling company’s numbers. 
YouGov have came out with a convoluted explanation that their poling is based on sampling, overlays, (whatever that means), and “ constituency bias and tactical voting predictions”, not what people actually say who they are voting for !

YouGov have now agreed to publish THEIR way of polling, alongside of what people actually tell them !

Ive never been a great believer in polls; remember Brexit ? Remain were polling well in front until the votes were counted !

Establishment stitch up ?

Cheers.

 

[tatsblisters 11,431]

11 hours ago, mackem said:

The Rubin Report podcast I just put up mentions reform are now a diluted Conservative Party,started out well but…….

The small number of folk I bump into most days only last year were all saying we need reform in power to sort the country out since a few of the high profile tories have joined reform most of them have said the same honestly think nothing will change under them. 

[mackem 31,768]

2 hours ago, tatsblisters said:

The small number of folk I bump into most days only last year were all saying we need reform in power to sort the country out since a few of the high profile tories have joined reform most of them have said the same honestly think nothing will change under them. 

The original shine is losing its lustre.

[chartpolski 29,814]

34 minutes ago, mackem said:

The original shine is losing its lustre.

So is EVERY council raising council tax, and usually by more than Reform.

Farage had been at pains to refute he ever said Reform would reduce council tax and when asked by a reporter about it said show me one time I said we would reduce council tax , and she couldn’t !

Reform said they would reduce taxes in general , not specifically council tax.

Pedantic? Possibly , but true

Cheers.

[mackem 31,768]

4 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

So is EVERY council raising council tax, and usually by more than Reform.

We aren’t talking about other councils though charts,no deflections Reforms 2024 general election pledge was £90 billion in tax cuts,not increases as soon as they get a foot in the door.

[TRUEBRIT66 2,478]

2 minutes ago, mackem said:

We aren’t talking about other councils though charts,no deflections Reforms 2024 general election pledge was £90 billion in tax cuts,not increases as soon as they get a foot in the door.

Top 10 most expensive councils for council tax in the UK are Green/Lib Dem/Labour run.

Cherry picking to make a point is what they want, dont take your eye off the ball!

[mackem 31,768]

1 minute ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Top 10 most expensive councils for council tax in the UK are Green/Lib Dem/Labour run.

Cherry picking to make a point is what they want, dont take your eye off the ball!

I am lucky in that I don’t need to keep my eye on the ball anymore,it’s all a game,but there are cracks appearing in Reform and it does no harm to point them out Tice AKA Dubai Dickie is another one

[TRUEBRIT66 2,478]

2 minutes ago, mackem said:

I am lucky in that I don’t need to keep my eye on the ball anymore,it’s all a game,but there are cracks appearing in Reform and it does no harm to point them out Tice AKA Dubai Dickie is another one

Yep agree and get your point. 

I was pissed when Tice made his "that lot" comments and I didnt like Nadhim Zahawis defection but sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture and the facts. There was a bit on GBNews last night about the council tax and Reform have said they can cut 700million, the Labour guy hit back saying they would cut care costs and shut down homes which Yusuf wouldnt deny but made the point that for cuts to happen services would have to be streamlined.

Personally I don't mind paying if the cost of CT reflected in the services the council provide something Reform stress is there intentions.

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7 minutes ago, TRUEBRIT66 said:

Yep agree and get your point. 

I was pissed when Tice made his "that lot" comments and I didnt like Nadhim Zahawis defection but sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture and the facts. There was a bit on GBNews last night about the council tax and Reform have said they can cut 700million, the Labour guy hit back saying they would cut care costs and shut down homes which Yusuf wouldnt deny but made the point that for cuts to happen services would have to be streamlined.

Personally I don't mind paying if the cost of CT reflected in the services the council provide something Reform stress is there intentions.

Unfortunately nobody can see a bigger picture. They want someone to march into power and wave a magic wand, kick out 20% of the population without it effecting services or economy and do it all yesterday.....for free

[chartpolski 29,814]

2 hours ago, mackem said:

We aren’t talking about other councils though charts,no deflections Reforms 2024 general election pledge was £90 billion in tax cuts,not increases as soon as they get a foot in the door.

I’m not deflecting, I replied to your post that specifically mentioned Council Tax you and most of the MSN are accusing Farage of going back on a promise to reduce Council Tax…. He didn’t, he promised to cut TAX, something he can’t do until and if Reform get into power.

You put up a list of Reform controlled council tax increases, as it happens, I got my council tax demand yesterday and the Labour Council has put it up by 5%, that’s more than all the Reform Council Tax increases you mentioned bar one !

As I keep asking ; what’s the alternative to a Reform government ? 
Not Restore, over 90% of people haven’t heard of Rupert Lowe and a lot of those that have don’t like his policies.

Maybe the election after next, but no chance of winning the next one.

So, to me, the only pragmatic, viable alternative is Reform, unless people would be happy with another 5 years of Labour, or even worse, a Lab/LibDem/Green coalition.

You have your reservations about Farage/Reform, I can respect that, but until a viable alternative comes up, I’ll vote Reform

Cheers.

Edited 1 hour ago by chartpolski

[mackem 31,768]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

I’m not deflecting, I replied to your post that specifically mentioned Council Tax

Your reply was they are all putting council tax up,you capitalised EVERY and you said by more,this is about REFORM,that’s deflection.

Farage promised £90 billion in tax,but they are already increasing tax in councils they control aren’t they?

[chartpolski 29,814]

1 minute ago, mackem said:

Your reply was they are all putting council tax up,you capitalised EVERY and you said by more,this is about REFORM,that’s deflection.

Farage promised £90 billion in tax,but they are already increasing tax in councils they control aren’t they?

OK, you’ll not have to put up with the devastation that any alternative to Reform will wreak on the country

Thatll be us poor fuckers, I’m too old to sell up and relocate now

Cheers.

[mackem 31,768]

4 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

OK, you’ll not have to put up with the devastation that any alternative to Reform will wreak on the country

Thatll be us poor fuckers, I’m too old to sell up and relocate now

Cheers.

I will pop my clogs long before you Charts,you will still be rolling when your 100