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[poxon 5,927]

I always liked starting young dogs pinning in nets early as possible off a slip lead it’s a fool proof way of building confidence in young dogs making them believe there the best thing since sliced bread without over taxing them progressing on to no slip then less nets layed then at about 10month I’d take them out at night to watch mine or other dogs run by about 11 month they get there first one to one little walk out to see if I could find a squatter far out by then they are already confident they know how they move they’ve had there mouths round loads of them so there not unsure of them. 

[Luckee legs 542]

IMO 8 months is young for the type of interaction you describe. It's definitely possible to enter too early if the ground is not on the dogs side.   For me, starting them ferreting with purse nets is that situation where a young dog can have beneficial experiences, they will get excited by whats happening and want to get involved. Compared to an experienced dog whos in the right place most of the time , Id expect to see a youngster unable to position well and also to hesitate briefly when a rabbit bolts. thats where the purse net saves the day with a 100% chance of a catch if it purses

Its not completely without issue, Ive a whippet that is a f.....g pain not letting go of netted rabbits and I wonder if I made some mistakes early on in handling that. Having mostly had collie blooded lurchers the drop aspect has always been easy in the past

[Daniel cain 49,227]

Giving a young dog 'droppers'...rats in a cage trap...or  something sharp in a blockend...teaches them nothing imo... easiest way to spoil a young prospect ...much more rewarding,when a young dog makes it happen themselves

[Moocher71 4,266]

My brothers old  dog didn't cach anything until 2 year old but Deerhound x 

I always start young dogs off with ferreting and it's never failed yet,once your dog taking interest in netted rabbits ,leave a couple nets off and let rabbits bolt and your youngster will soon chase and catch and then try on the lamp .

I do not and would not drop rabbits,I don't think your learning a dog anything by dropping rabbits,find a squatter and walk your dog up to it and only slip once the rabbit moves .

 

[Moocher71 4,266]

1 hour ago, Luckee legs said:

IMO 8 months is young for the type of interaction you describe. It's definitely possible to enter too early if the ground is not on the dogs side.   For me, starting them ferreting with purse nets is that situation where a young dog can have beneficial experiences, they will get excited by whats happening and want to get involved. Compared to an experienced dog whos in the right place most of the time , Id expect to see a youngster unable to position well and also to hesitate briefly when a rabbit bolts. thats where the purse net saves the day with a 100% chance of a catch if it purses

Its not completely without issue, Ive a whippet that is a f.....g pain not letting go of netted rabbits and I wonder if I made some mistakes early on in handling that. Having mostly had collie blooded lurchers the drop aspect has always been easy in the past

my old dog would bring back to hand and hold them in nets alive but my bedy lurcher she just crunches, some dogs just take to ferreting and are a joy to watch and others no matter what you do are hard mouthed.

 

[Norris2019 96]

Thanks for the replies and advice much appreciated. Time will tell surpose she will come too in her own time. As she's still a pup. I just expected her to do what I expected with a couple out of the same litter chasing and picking up. Mines chasing but not picking up witch is frustrating 

[Leo Sayer 3,692]

1 hour ago, Daniel cain said:

Giving a young dog 'droppers'...rats in a cage trap...or  something sharp in a blockend...teaches them nothing imo... easiest way to spoil a young prospect ...much more rewarding,when a young dog makes it happen themselves

Totally agree on droppers. If was starting a young one. I would take them to walled in fields either local or up dales and some nice easy green bunnies. 

[Franks dad 2,231]

Get down pets at home … hang around till someone asks to see the little ginger fluffy bunny , give em a nudge then slip it on isle two

[DogMagic2 101]

22 hours ago, Norris2019 said:

I will try that what would you suggest if she doesn't eat it jst give it time

 

2 ways. 1) Take the dog out somewhere where you can shoot. Even if only with an air rifle. Shoot a rabbit. Then take the dog for a walk. If the dog doesn't find the rabbit that you shot then you "find" it and make a big fuss. Jump about and scream, throw it, let the dog chase it, play tug of war.  You will see a different dog next time he sees a rabbit. 

2) If you can ferret a rabbit, catch it in a net and take the dog for a walk out somewhere where there's no rabbit holes. Get out in the middle of a green or football field etc and drop the rabbit. The rabbit will run but not find cover, the dog will catch it. Give lots of praise. 

[low plains drifter 11,264]

21 hours ago, Black neck said:

Hangings 2 good for him 

He of the droppers?

Indeed, a dossers errand 

[Black neck 17,506]

39 minutes ago, low plains drifter said:

He of the droppers?

Indeed, a dossers errand 

Alas the practice of dropping confuses the dog ,brutalises the man and the quarry has a somewhat low opinion of it also 

[low plains drifter 11,264]

1 hour ago, Black neck said:

Alas the practice of dropping confuses the dog ,brutalises the man and the quarry has a somewhat low opinion of it also 

Bonnet de douche

[thefensarefarbutistillgo 2,731]

2 hours ago, DogMagic2 said:

2 ways. 1) Take the dog out somewhere where you can shoot. Even if only with an air rifle. Shoot a rabbit. Then take the dog for a walk. If the dog doesn't find the rabbit that you shot then you "find" it and make a big fuss. Jump about and scream, throw it, let the dog chase it, play tug of war.  You will see a different dog next time he sees a rabbit. 

2) If you can ferret a rabbit, catch it in a net and take the dog for a walk out somewhere where there's no rabbit holes. Get out in the middle of a green or football field etc and drop the rabbit. The rabbit will run but not find cover, the dog will catch it. Give lots of praise. 

Jump about and scream lol, great advice that 

[gunter 1,869]

Let the pup be a pup people think dogs should just go dogs become different animals when they mature every dog is different some are just natural to it others don't come on to they mature bulldogs terriers hounds let them be pups they'll show you when they want to go at that age I'd be letting it run about teaching it how to jump how to get over stuff through gates more important than lifting a dropper at 8 months  keep it on the lead let it watch stuff run away egg it on see if it starts going mad just hold it back keep doing it then give it a dropper when it has the want for it or just bring it out lamping when it's ready 

[gunter 1,869]

f**k the tug of war I'd a lurcher if it caught a fox see taking it off it full fight usually just pulled and pulled and a bit of hair of whatever come off