Charlie Kirk

[chartpolski 28,255]

4 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

If the assassin was black or Muslim or genuinely belonged to a violent radical left organisation, America would have become a tinderbox of  retribution.

Perhaps it will happen in the not too distant future. If it does, hold on to your hat.

Many American commentators are saying if this was a black, democrat, religious fundamentalist, shot by a white man, American would be in flames now !

Cheers.

[jukel123 9,514]

1 minute ago, chartpolski said:

Many American commentators are saying if this was a black, democrat, religious fundamentalist, shot by a white man, American would be in flames now !

Cheers.

Fair comment.

[jukel123 9,514]

2 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Many American commentators are saying if this was a black, democrat, religious fundamentalist, shot by a white man, American would be in flames now !

Cheers.

I can't help thinking that Trump is chancing his luck with regard to the blacks. The sixties saw the Civil Rghts movement, the riots , the shooting of Martin Luther King. As a result, the blacks won many concessions.

Trump has been taking advice from his British political advisor Wilf, and is actively rowing back on the rights won by the blacks and is openly hostile to Muslims. ( Wilf is advising he now turns his attention to the catholics.)

I think, sooner or later the blacks will kick back .

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,375]

3 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

I can't help thinking that Trump is chancing his luck with regard to the blacks. The sixties saw the Civil Rghts movement, the riots , the shooting of Martin Luther King. As a result, the blacks won many concessions.

Trump has been taking advice from his British political advisor Wilf, and is actively rowing back on the rights won by the blacks and is openly hostile to Muslims. ( Wilf is advising he now turns his attention to the catholics.)

I think, sooner or later the blacks will kick back .

There’s a bit of a flaw there

never assume what you don’t know 

[chartpolski 28,255]

Just now, jukel123 said:

I can't help thinking that Trump is chancing his luck with regard to the blacks. The sixties saw the Civil Rghts movement, the riots , the shooting of Martin Luther King. As a result, the blacks won many concessions.

Trump has been taking advice from his British political advisor Wilf, and is actively rowing back on the rights won by the blacks and is openly hostile to Muslims. ( Wilf is advising he now turns his attention to the catholics.)

I think, sooner or later the blacks will kick back .

Hmmm ?

I may be wrong, but I think Trump got the majority of male, black votes ? It surprised the American media and establishment how many blacks and Hispanics voted for Trump.

I haven’t seen any rolling back of black civil rights, but I agree entirely that he isn’t a supporter of Islam ! LOL !

His refusal to recognise a Palestinian State is diametrically opposed to Starmer accepting it in an obvious and blatant move to appease the far left of his parliamentary party and to stop the haemorrhaging of the Muslim vote to Corbyns new party.

Cheers.

[jukel123 9,514]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/02/politics/trump-civil-rights-rollback-what-matters

[Born Hunter 17,955]

6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

Hmmm ?

I may be wrong, but I think Trump got the majority of male, black votes ? It surprised the American media and establishment how many blacks and Hispanics voted for Trump.

I haven’t seen any rolling back of black civil rights, but I agree entirely that he isn’t a supporter of Islam ! LOL !

His refusal to recognise a Palestinian State is diametrically opposed to Starmer accepting it in an obvious and blatant move to appease the far left of his parliamentary party and to stop the haemorrhaging of the Muslim vote to Corbyns new party.

Cheers.

Starmer seems to be taking a harder stance on immigration to try to fight off reform (utterly futile imo) and has probably recognised Palestine to try to balance it out. 

[chartpolski 28,255]

1 minute ago, jukel123 said:

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/05/02/politics/trump-civil-rights-rollback-what-matters

 CNN is to Trump as The Guardian is to Farage ! LOL ! 
Getting rid of “woke” and “Political Correctness “ should benefit EVERYONE .

I don’t see Trump advocating the return of segregation or the return of the Jim Crow Laws.

Just my own views, of course.

Cheers.

[jukel123 9,514]

38 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

 CNN is to Trump as The Guardian is to Farage ! LOL ! 
Getting rid of “woke” and “Political Correctness “ should benefit EVERYONE .

I don’t see Trump advocating the return of segregation or the return of the Jim Crow Laws.

Just my own views, of course.

Cheers.

Granted CNN is not Fox News. No argument about  wokeness PC or bullying transgender laws.

But Trump's repeated and vindictive attacks on academic freedom and freedom of speech by withholding grants from 'offending'universities,  his arbitrary sacking of people, his downright lies, ( factcheckers have identified hundreds of downright,  often bizarre lies), his cancelling of DEI which rightly or wrongly keeps the lid on a tinderbox imo, his contempt of the rule of law, ( (witness his incitement and subsequent pardoning of the criminals who attacked the Capitol,) his contemptuous attitude to women and his proven rape of a female, his openly mocking of a handicapped person, his administration's fiddling with voting laws so that in one hot 'black' state it is against the law to give a drink of water to a black person waiting in line to vote, his withdrawal of Medicaid and some food aid from poor people, his blatant acceptance of gifts/ bribes I.e the Quatari aircraft, these are surely the acts of a would be dictator and narcissist.

My point is there will eventually be a backlash especially if the economy goes tits up and inflation spikes.

Edited 12 hours ago by jukel123

[Borr 8,085]

The likelihood of another left wing party in the western world for the next decade is very remote, if I was a left ideological thinker I would be praying for an election sooner rather than later so we can revert to middle ground politics quicker.

[chartpolski 28,255]

4 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Granted CNN is not Fox News. No argument about  wokeness PC or bullying transgender laws.

But Trump's repeated and vindictive attacks on academic freedom and freedom of speech by withholding grants from 'offending'universities,  his arbitrary sacking of people, his downright lies, ( factcheckers have identified hundreds of downright,  often bizarre lies), his cancelling of DEI which rightly or wrongly keeps the lid on a tinderbox imo, his contempt of the rule of law, ( (witness his incitement and subsequent pardoning of the criminals who attacked the Capitol,) his contemptuous attitude to women and his proven rape of a female, his openly mocking of a handicapped person, his administration's fiddling with voting laws so that in one hot 'black' state it is against the law to give a drink of water to a black person waiting in line to vote, his withdrawal of Medicaid and some food aid from poor people, his blatant acceptance of gifts/ bribes I.e the Quatari aircraft, these are surely the acts of a would be dictator and narcissist.

My point is there will eventually be a backlash especially if the economy goes tits up and inflation spikes.

There’s something in the back of my mind about a type of sub-atomic particle, where, because of Quantum Mechanics, it’s motion differs from different points of view.

A bit like you and I; me viewing things from the right; you viewing from the left, and seeing things completely differently ! LOL !

But, as I always say, I can respect your views without necessarily agreeing with them

Cheers.

[Lenmcharristar 10,333]

30 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Granted CNN is not Fox News. No argument about  wokeness PC or bullying transgender laws.

But Trump's repeated and vindictive attacks on academic freedom and freedom of speech by withholding grants from 'offending'universities,  his arbitrary sacking of people, his downright lies, ( factcheckers have identified hundreds of downright,  often bizarre lies), his cancelling of DEI which rightly or wrongly keeps the lid on a tinderbox imo, his contempt of the rule of law, ( (witness his incitement and subsequent pardoning of the criminals who attacked the Capitol,) his contemptuous attitude to women and his proven rape of a female, his openly mocking of a handicapped person, his administration's fiddling with voting laws so that in one hot 'black' state it is against the law to give a drink of water to a black person waiting in line to vote, his withdrawal of Medicaid and some food aid from poor people, his blatant acceptance of gifts/ bribes I.e the Quatari aircraft, these are surely the acts of a would be dictator and narcissist.

My point is there will eventually be a backlash especially if the economy goes tits up and inflation spikes.

Theres freedom of speech and then theres indoctrination of the youth by brainwashing, perverted , demonic lefty loonatics, ya have to draw a line somewhere and in my opinion by bowing to the queers it has opened a pandoras box

[jukel123 9,514]

26 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

There’s something in the back of my mind about a type of sub-atomic particle, where, because of Quantum Mechanics, it’s motion differs from different points of view.

A bit like you and I; me viewing things from the right; you viewing from the left, and seeing things completely differently ! LOL !

But, as I always say, I can respect your views without necessarily agreeing with them

Cheers.

I'm always amazed at how people view events completely differently. What is hidden from me is obvious to you and vice versa. There some evidence that genes play a part in our political leanings. In which case, our exchanging of opinions is completely pointless.lol

Although I have had my mind changed in occasion on here. Even my sometimes enemy, sometimes friend  Wilf has changed my mind...about politics, Greyman about abortion,  Gnasher about boxing and Born H about trophy shooting. The rest of the time everybody has been completely, f****n wrong

[scotty12 3,996]

3 hours ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Never in a million years years unless he had a trauma team stood next to him 

he was dead when he tipped 

you can’t survive that blood loss or that wound , it’s nigh on impossible 

https://x.com/Villgecrazylady/status/1969953618875887783/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1969953618875887783&currentTweetUser=Villgecrazylady
 

I thought as much also 

[scotty12 3,996]

2 hours ago, jukel123 said:

Has anybody read, or does anybody think it is credible that Mossad had a hand in his death?

Apparently, among the many things he had said, is that he did not believe Hamas murdered people and took hostages without the knowledge and complicity of Mossad and Netananahu. He also said that he did not believe this was a war between Judeo/ Christianity and Islam but simply a war over territory. He also muted that enough was enough with regard to Palestinian suffering. People like Kirk often say a lot of things to keep all  supporters on board, because he has made conflicting statements about some of the above on different occasions.

Given Kirk's messiah_ like status, Israel had become concerned he would influence American opinion against them so bumped him off.

Remotely plausible?

Personally I think he was murdered by a young man who was a nutjob. Nothing more. But I just thought I would throw the theory into the mix.

They’ve got bigger fish to fry at the moment the Great War is near upon us