Migrants

[Borr 9,146]

2 minutes ago, mackem said:

I used to live in the Philippines,oversubscribed university course is nursing,families will sell land,get up to their eyeballs in debt to get a kid onto a nursing course as the kid can work and live abroad and make a good life,education is currency.Australia and New Zealand were recruiting doctors in the UK a few years back,in the past year I know three Canadian nurses who have went south of the border for a great salary and standard of living,people have always moved around for better money be it moving around the city,country or world.

I agree but never in our worlds history has it been as encouraged or easy. It used to be the brave few now it is the majority 

[mackem 31,816]

1 minute ago, Borr said:

I agree but never in our worlds history has it been as encouraged or easy. It used to be the brave few now it is the majority 

That’s true,when I was a kid I remember someone I knew going to Germany to work,it was a big deal back then,now it’s nothing,digital-nomads moving around.

[Bendigo 2,316]

1 hour ago, mackem said:

There’s currently 1652 NHS vacancies for doctors in the NHS,my son put the hard work in,I paid every single penny of his tuition,no student loans whatsoever,have the states nicked him?

 

I'm not here to comment on the states. It's immoral and ridiculous for Britain to base it's provision of medical and care staff on importing them from abroad. 

Pray a big African bloke isn't the only option to look after your incontinent mother. 

 

[mackem 31,816]

Just now, Bendigo said:

I'm not here to comment on the states. It's immoral and ridiculous for Britain to base it's provision of medical and care staff on importing them from abroad. 

Pray a big African bloke isn't the only option to look after your incontinent mother. 

 

My mother thankfully died in a care home

you have gone from stealing to importing,incentivising is a better choice.

[littlefish 620]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

True…..but we have to make tax and costs smaller so that they can actually live a life on the wages 

We have to make it so accessible for capable locals.  When I started in the NHS, almost 40 years ago, the suggestion of nurses with tattoos was outrageous, now it is commonplace, along with single parents etc. Local people should be enabled as far as possible, so that we don't have to depend on foreign labour.

[Bendigo 2,316]

6 minutes ago, mackem said:

My mother thankfully died in a care home

you have gone from stealing to importing,incentivising is a better choice.

Not quite sure what your point is....do you think it's good Britain is dependent on foreign health care staff. I don't. But I'm aware it can't be solved by just stopping or making it harder for them to come 

[iworkwhippets 13,300]

5 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

I'm not here to comment on the states. It's immoral and ridiculous for Britain to base it's provision of medical and care staff on importing them from abroad. 

Pray a big African bloke isn't the only option to look after your incontinent mother. 

 

Oh yes they are already there big African blokes, nurses to boot, spent last three years in n out of hospital i remember on one occasion,  this black lady nurse entered the ward around 9am to  give patients there medication, her rear end entered about 9 am ,      But I'm still standing 

[mackem 31,816]

1 minute ago, Bendigo said:

Not quite sure what your point is....do you think it's good Britain is dependent on foreign health care staff. 

My point is your original choice of word didn’t fit,you said UK stole healthcare staff,I said the UK doesn’t steal them,the UK offers a better work package than their home countries,no stealing,it’s incentivisation.

[Lenmcharristar 10,704]

7 minutes ago, littlefish said:

We have to make it so accessible for capable locals.  When I started in the NHS, almost 40 years ago, the suggestion of nurses with tattoos was outrageous, now it is commonplace, along with single parents etc. Local people should be enabled as far as possible, so that we don't have to depend on foreign labour.

Now its full of tattooed dykes with the side shave and rainbow lanyards on full display, there should be no politics in the nhs, and it should be made up of majority of our own with free tuition from the unis, its a disgrace our own peoples have to pay through the nose for something we are in short supply off, our whole system needs reforming, well done for your nhs service, thats some time youve put in helping those who need it

[Bendigo 2,316]

3 minutes ago, mackem said:

My point is your original choice of word didn’t fit,you said UK stole healthcare staff,I said the UK doesn’t steal them,the UK offers a better work package than their home countries,no stealing,it’s incentivisation.

Apologies for my phrasing.....I still think it's madness and wrong for Britain and immoral to take them from other countries 

[iworkwhippets 13,300]

36 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said:

Oh yes they are already there big African blokes, nurses to boot, spent last three years in n out of hospital i remember on one occasion,  this black lady nurse entered the ward around 9am to  give patients there medication, her rear end entered about 9 10am

 

[mackem 31,816]

55 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

Apologies for my phrasing.....I still think it's madness and wrong for Britain and immoral to take them from other countries 

If they hadn’t been actively recruiting from 3’rd world and developing countries the NHS would be up a creek without a paddle both now and a long time ahead,non Brits make up roughly 30% of nurses and 35% of doctors,Brit doctors graduate they want the lifestyle of Australia or the money in the states.

[iworkwhippets 13,300]

11 hours ago, mackem said:

If they hadn’t been actively recruiting from 3’rd world and developing countries the NHS would be up a creek without a paddle both now and a long time ahead,non Brits make up roughly 30% of nurses and 35% of doctors,Brit doctors graduate they want the lifestyle of Australia or the money in the states.

To right sir,,and it's not just the NHS Britain is a sick country now, full.of pensioners, today's youth, stuck we a mobile phone In there hands all day, more than 50, per cent we mental health issues at the doctor's fer a sick note, boatloads of foreigners arriving daily to do the jobs us Brits won't do, still arriving on our shore, welcomed by us, housing and new towns going up who for eh,  

[Bendigo 2,316]

 

 

[WILF 53,005]

The NHS is one of the places where the catastrophe and betrayal of immigration is laid bare !

Its there for all to see.

The reports are a little difficult to find on the web but they are there and they will show that not bothering to train our own young people as doctors and Nurses saves the various governments billions !……what did they do with these billions ?, well they didn’t invest it back into our young people that’s for sure so I’m guessing they just pissed it away like they did all the rest !

Instead they followed  an active policy of stealing healthcare professionals from the 3rd world, while at the same time also massively inflating the population with the 3rd world and driving down wages whilst simultaneously putting pressure on houses and services !

So costs for ordinary people went up while wages stagnated !

All of this required a massive lowering of the professional bar in the NHS and the social bar in the wider community…..some of the fallout of which can be witnessed in an A&E across the country every weekend, it can been seen by the stab kits paramedics now routinely carry on the front seat because it’s not worth putting them away. 

A far cry from the high trust society and matron ran healthcare system upto around the time I was born. 
 

Where pride and professionalism used to pervade now we have a 3rd world can’t be arsed attitude to a service that’s meant to save people and our own good people can’t afford to work there or don’t fit in and don’t want to work amongst such shoddy people ! 
 

The NHS is probably one of the greatest examples of everything bad about flooding your country with Africans and Pakis and various odd marks dragged from piss holes around the globe !

Edited 16 minutes ago by WILF