Migrants

[Borr 9,141]

2 minutes ago, mackem said:

I used to live in the Philippines,oversubscribed university course is nursing,families will sell land,get up to their eyeballs in debt to get a kid onto a nursing course as the kid can work and live abroad and make a good life,education is currency.Australia and New Zealand were recruiting doctors in the UK a few years back,in the past year I know three Canadian nurses who have went south of the border for a great salary and standard of living,people have always moved around for better money be it moving around the city,country or world.

I agree but never in our worlds history has it been as encouraged or easy. It used to be the brave few now it is the majority 

[mackem 31,816]

1 minute ago, Borr said:

I agree but never in our worlds history has it been as encouraged or easy. It used to be the brave few now it is the majority 

That’s true,when I was a kid I remember someone I knew going to Germany to work,it was a big deal back then,now it’s nothing,digital-nomads moving around.

[Bendigo 2,316]

1 hour ago, mackem said:

There’s currently 1652 NHS vacancies for doctors in the NHS,my son put the hard work in,I paid every single penny of his tuition,no student loans whatsoever,have the states nicked him?

 

I'm not here to comment on the states. It's immoral and ridiculous for Britain to base it's provision of medical and care staff on importing them from abroad. 

Pray a big African bloke isn't the only option to look after your incontinent mother. 

 

[mackem 31,816]

Just now, Bendigo said:

I'm not here to comment on the states. It's immoral and ridiculous for Britain to base it's provision of medical and care staff on importing them from abroad. 

Pray a big African bloke isn't the only option to look after your incontinent mother. 

 

My mother thankfully died in a care home

you have gone from stealing to importing,incentivising is a better choice.

[littlefish 619]

5 minutes ago, WILF said:

True…..but we have to make tax and costs smaller so that they can actually live a life on the wages 

We have to make it so accessible for capable locals.  When I started in the NHS, almost 40 years ago, the suggestion of nurses with tattoos was outrageous, now it is commonplace, along with single parents etc. Local people should be enabled as far as possible, so that we don't have to depend on foreign labour.

[Bendigo 2,316]

6 minutes ago, mackem said:

My mother thankfully died in a care home

you have gone from stealing to importing,incentivising is a better choice.

Not quite sure what your point is....do you think it's good Britain is dependent on foreign health care staff. I don't. But I'm aware it can't be solved by just stopping or making it harder for them to come 

[iworkwhippets 13,300]

5 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

I'm not here to comment on the states. It's immoral and ridiculous for Britain to base it's provision of medical and care staff on importing them from abroad. 

Pray a big African bloke isn't the only option to look after your incontinent mother. 

 

Oh yes they are already there big African blokes, nurses to boot, spent last three years in n out of hospital i remember on one occasion,  this black lady nurse entered the ward around 9am to  give patients there medication, her rear end entered about 9 am ,      But I'm still standing 

[mackem 31,816]

1 minute ago, Bendigo said:

Not quite sure what your point is....do you think it's good Britain is dependent on foreign health care staff. 

My point is your original choice of word didn’t fit,you said UK stole healthcare staff,I said the UK doesn’t steal them,the UK offers a better work package than their home countries,no stealing,it’s incentivisation.

[Lenmcharristar 10,695]

7 minutes ago, littlefish said:

We have to make it so accessible for capable locals.  When I started in the NHS, almost 40 years ago, the suggestion of nurses with tattoos was outrageous, now it is commonplace, along with single parents etc. Local people should be enabled as far as possible, so that we don't have to depend on foreign labour.

Now its full of tattooed dykes with the side shave and rainbow lanyards on full display, there should be no politics in the nhs, and it should be made up of majority of our own with free tuition from the unis, its a disgrace our own peoples have to pay through the nose for something we are in short supply off, our whole system needs reforming, well done for your nhs service, thats some time youve put in helping those who need it

[Bendigo 2,316]

3 minutes ago, mackem said:

My point is your original choice of word didn’t fit,you said UK stole healthcare staff,I said the UK doesn’t steal them,the UK offers a better work package than their home countries,no stealing,it’s incentivisation.

Apologies for my phrasing.....I still think it's madness and wrong for Britain and immoral to take them from other countries 

[iworkwhippets 13,300]

36 minutes ago, iworkwhippets said:

Oh yes they are already there big African blokes, nurses to boot, spent last three years in n out of hospital i remember on one occasion,  this black lady nurse entered the ward around 9am to  give patients there medication, her rear end entered about 9 10am

 

[mackem 31,816]

55 minutes ago, Bendigo said:

Apologies for my phrasing.....I still think it's madness and wrong for Britain and immoral to take them from other countries 

If they hadn’t been actively recruiting from 3’rd world and developing countries the NHS would be up a creek without a paddle both now and a long time ahead,non Brits make up roughly 30% of nurses and 35% of doctors,Brit doctors graduate they want the lifestyle of Australia or the money in the states.