Windmills

[jukel123 9,290]

I have a friend who is a Councillor and is something to do with the planning department. He told me he was dreading a meeting about erecting windmills because people are so opposed to them. He asked me to come with him for moral support. He had been inundated with threats, insults and fruity language.

So I went. Those against say they are ugly, noisy, and kill birds. Those who like them say they are beautiful if only because they are non polluting. They produce energy at no cost to the environment. Unlike coal and nuclear.

I just listened, it's not my fight because I don't live anywhere near their proposed construction and in any case I am a rubbish speaker. I must admit I was in favour of them though. I don't think they are ugly and birds would have to be retarded to fly into them. Electricity cables must kill far more.

Sure enough it was a very rowdy meeting and my mate was heckled and sworn at in the car park which was a bit naughty.

Anybody got any thoughts for or against?

[paulus 26]

Depends. are the actually cost effective? Who profits from them? Will the energy they produce be cheaper to the consumer? Long term are they self sustainable? Is some twat going to want them painting in rainbow colours to support some cause or other? Who is actually putting up the money? i could go on but you get the idea Lol

[jukel123 9,290]

19 minutes ago, paulus said:

Depends. are the actually cost effective? Who profits from them? Will the energy they produce be cheaper to the consumer? Long term are they self sustainable? Is some twat going to want them painting in rainbow colours to support some cause or other? Who is actually putting up the money? i could go on but you get the idea Lol

Yeah, take your point. Are they really for the community? Or private profit? 

[Borr 7,680]

Bit off topic but heard today a waste plant in West Wales been dumping raw sewage into the river sea for last twenty years , if shareholders aren't held accountable then privatisation of utilities won't work for us, whether water, energy, waste etc.

[jukel123 9,290]

19 minutes ago, Borr said:

Bit off topic but heard today a waste plant in West Wales been dumping raw sewage into the river sea for last twenty years , if shareholders aren't held accountable then privatisation of utilities won't work for us, whether water, energy, waste etc.

Has there been a single privatised utility company which has produced a cheaper, cleaner, more reliable product?  Privatisation was great for those who bought cheap shares and  a gift which keeps giving for chief executives, but not great for consumers and employees.

[Bakerboy 4,740]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

I have a friend who is a Councillor and is something to do with the planning department. He told me he was dreading a meeting about erecting windmills because people are so opposed to them. He asked me to come with him for moral support. He had been inundated with threats, insults and fruity language.

So I went. Those against say they are ugly, noisy, and kill birds. Those who like them say they are beautiful if only because they are non polluting. They produce energy at no cost to the environment. Unlike coal and nuclear.

I just listened, it's not my fight because I don't live anywhere near their proposed construction and in any case I am a rubbish speaker. I must admit I was in favour of them though. I don't think they are ugly and birds would have to be retarded to fly into them. Electricity cables must kill far more.

Sure enough it was a very rowdy meeting and my mate was heckled and sworn at in the car park which was a bit naughty.

Anybody got any thoughts for or against?

My step son worked in the industry he reckons theres scam after scam involved in payments subsidies ect and he's a proper green

[jukel123 9,290]

3 minutes ago, Bakerboy said:

My step son worked in the industry he reckons theres scam after scam involved in payments subsidies ect and he's a proper green

Why am I not surprised? Just read Sunak's wife  benefited to the tune of two million from Covid contracts.  Corruption is getting so bad these stories hardly register with us.

[Gypsydog94 4,688]

1 hour ago, jukel123 said:

I have a friend who is a Councillor and is something to do with the planning department. He told me he was dreading a meeting about erecting windmills because people are so opposed to them. He asked me to come with him for moral support. He had been inundated with threats, insults and fruity language.

So I went. Those against say they are ugly, noisy, and kill birds. Those who like them say they are beautiful if only because they are non polluting. They produce energy at no cost to the environment. Unlike coal and nuclear.

I just listened, it's not my fight because I don't live anywhere near their proposed construction and in any case I am a rubbish speaker. I must admit I was in favour of them though. I don't think they are ugly and birds would have to be retarded to fly into them. Electricity cables must kill far more.

Sure enough it was a very rowdy meeting and my mate was heckled and sworn at in the car park which was a bit naughty.

Anybody got any thoughts for or against?

I’m not sure what it’s like now regarding the recycling of these wind turbines and solar panels. But my understanding was that they are only good for burying when at the end of their life. 

[Bakerboy 4,740]

22 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Why am I not surprised? Just read Sunak's wife  benefited to the tune of two million from Covid contracts.  Corruption is getting so bad these stories hardly register with us.

Pigs in troughs mate, they're all at it whatever their rossette colour

[mackem 29,522]

6 minutes ago, Bakerboy said:

Pigs in troughs mate, they're all at it whatever their rossette colour

MP Victoria Atkins,the governments minister for crime,spoke out openly against cannabis,had to then “Voluntarily” stop speaking out against weed due to conflict of interests when it emerged her husband Paul grows and exports 90 tons of “medical marijuana” from the UK,law-makers eh lol

[jukel123 9,290]

I want to know why that 29 year old posh totty bird with the blonde hair and rather large tits got a peerage from Johnston after three months temping in his office. She must have been a brilliant typist and been able to make a mean old cup of coffee. Shame for that saggy titted old trout Nadine Dories though, she had been his chief fan and cheerleader in the Commons and she got nothing, apart from what he may have given  him in private if he was hard up. I can't sleep at night worrying about that terrible injustice.

[WILF 49,730]

2 hours ago, jukel123 said:

I have a friend who is a Councillor and is something to do with the planning department. He told me he was dreading a meeting about erecting windmills because people are so opposed to them. He asked me to come with him for moral support. He had been inundated with threats, insults and fruity language.

So I went. Those against say they are ugly, noisy, and kill birds. Those who like them say they are beautiful if only because they are non polluting. They produce energy at no cost to the environment. Unlike coal and nuclear.

I just listened, it's not my fight because I don't live anywhere near their proposed construction and in any case I am a rubbish speaker. I must admit I was in favour of them though. I don't think they are ugly and birds would have to be retarded to fly into them. Electricity cables must kill far more.

Sure enough it was a very rowdy meeting and my mate was heckled and sworn at in the car park which was a bit naughty.

Anybody got any thoughts for or against?

As far as I know (and I may be way off the mark) but solar and wind energy can’t be stored and can’t financially sustain itself without massive government subsidy ?

What I do know for sure is that they are noisy fecking things ! 
 

So, it depends I suppose how close they are to your pals constituents and what it’s ultimately going to cost them in the government helping themselves to their money ?…….personally, I’d tell him to shove it up his arse as well because it’s all f***ing smoke and mirrors !

[jukel123 9,290]

Shove a windmill up his arse, now there's a difficult image to conjure. Sometimes I wish you would be more direct Wilf. Just say what you truly believe and don't euphemise all the f****n time.

[chartpolski 27,576]

2 minutes ago, WILF said:

As far as I know (and I may be way off the mark) but solar and wind energy can’t be stored and can’t financially sustain itself without massive government subsidy ?

What I do know for sure is that they are noisy fecking things ! 
 

So, it depends I suppose how close they are to your pals constituents and what it’s ultimately going to cost them in the government helping themselves to their money ?…….personally, I’d tell him to shove it up his arse as well because it’s all f***ing smoke and mirrors !

You would need gigantic battery storage for solar and wind energy for when the sun isn’t shining and the wind isn’t blowing. 
Base Load is needed for those times and that means diesel, gas , coal or nuclear powered generation.

The eco fanatics refuse to accept this simple fact.

Cheers.

[WILF 49,730]

20 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Shove a windmill up his arse, now there's a difficult image to conjure. Sometimes I wish you would be more direct Wilf. Just say what you truly believe and don't euphemise all the f****n time.

Where I used to live the council has just f****d away a billion quid and now all the residents of borough have to pick up the tab as well as seeing all their services just done away with……all on “green energy investments”