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2 hours ago, DIDO.1 said:

No fault evictions just banned. 

So what do you or sandymere suggest we do about the other issues? 

Systems are fcked and I've not seen one suggested solution to the issues you raise other than hating Tories and the monarchy. 

I'm sure labour can borrow some money to 'invest'. Problem is the systems they want to throw money at need fixing not more money. 

Let's just look at NHS as it's, for most the main one. No amount of investment will help it when it's an absolute money pit. £250 quid to change a £14 light bulb. Hundreds of thousands spent on contracts that one man could be hired to do for £30,000 a year. And a million more people being given free health care this year alone. The day I see a lefty or a nurse saying stop mass mass mass immigration then I'll listen to em. 

But this thread is about the tranny madness so that's what we were discussing. It may be from the mail....I didn't even read it or the original link. But my comments still stand....it's not from the media, it's what we are all seeing on a daily basis. We aren't homophobic or trannyophobic. But our nation is being further divided by these sick sick individuals and the political left that are pushing it. 

No fault evictions are to be banned..finally announced today.  Great news. But there's no new law to stop landlords putting up rent as they feel fit. So they will use it as a loophole to get people out who are decent tenants. And there no recompense for people turfed out of their homes for no good reason.

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3 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Yea. But apart from that mate ……..

Well as you requested...our pension system is shite. Why do the French get to retire at 62 and we have to wait until 67?  French pensioners who have worked in heavy manual jobs get to retire earlier. Our pensions are shite compared to the rest of Europe only Portugal pays less. Why do our kids have to pay student fees which knacker them for years in repayments? Many other countries kids pay nothing.

Why are the public schools treated as charities for tax purposes. The rich are getting their private education at our expense.

Why has our longevity deteriorated? Is it because of the amount of money the NHS is awarded? The sum is way behind our European neighbours. We have less doctors, less hospitals... I could go on.

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The tories are the enemies of working people. Always were always will be.

I paid stamps for 44 years. My state pension pays me 670 notes a month. Fortunately I have another pension and my Mrs also has two pensions. I was recently in Spain and my Spanish friends said my state pension was a disgrace. They genuinely  felt sorry for me. They received 3 times more than I did. Go figure. Who does this county work for? Not you or me mate.

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22 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

No fault evictions are to be banned..finally.  Great news. But there's no new law to stop landlords putting up rent as they feel fit. So they will use it as a loophole to get people out who are decent tenants.

I'm on the fence with rented accommodation..... having lived in rented accommodation and been a landlord.....I'm glad I'm neither at the minute. 

.....but do you not accept that allowing a million people into the housing/renting system in one year is the leading issue with the housing situation? 

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I'm on the fence with rented accommodation..... having lived in rented accommodation and been a landlord.....I'm glad I'm neither at the minute. 

.....but do you not accept that allowing a million people into the housing/renting system in one year is the leading issue with the housing situation? 

Yes mate. But which party is responsible? Is that party left or right?

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25 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Well as you requested...our pension system is shite. Why do the French get to retire at 62 and we have to wait until 67?  French pensioners who have worked in heavy manual jobs get to retire earlier. Our pensions are shite compared to the rest of Europe only Portugal pays less. Why do our kids have to pay student fees which knacker them for years in repayments? Many other countries kids pay nothing.

Why are the public schools treated as charities for tax purposes. The rich are getting their private education at our expense.

Why has our longevity deteriorated? Is it because of the amount of money the NHS is awarded? The sum is way behind our European neighbours. We have less doctors, less hospitals... I could go on.

Want some more Foxdropper?

The tories are the enemies of working people. Always were always will be.

I paid stamps for 47 years. My state pension pays me 670 notes a month. Fortunately I have another pension and my Mrs also has two pensions. I was recently in Spain and my Spanish friends said my state pension was a disgrace. They genuinely  felt sorry for me. They received 3 times more than I did. Go figure. Who does this county work for? Not you or me mate.

All of that is down to personal choices mate . Relying on the state is the labour way and has systematically f****d the country from year dot . Private pension , retired at 55 . Think ahead for yourself ,not waiting for what  the state can do for  you .

Your whining tells me you have nothing put aside , want everything on a plate and most of all blame everyone for life’s misfortunes . 
Labour will further f**k the economy .

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19 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Yes mate. But which party is responsible? Is that party left or right?

The left.....and I'd class the conservatives as being part of that. There is really zero difference between labour and the conservatives, as most of us have been saying. Any part that wants to control immigration is labeled far right. 

The only difference between red and blue is that for most of us labour contains more extremists and links to extremist groups....such as momentum, unions, BLM. Also most of us can't forgive them for the hunting ban, starting mass immigration, bankrupting the country, selling off our gold after announcing it and causing a historic price drop and having Abbott as shadow home sec. 

AGAIN...... nobody here really supports Tories.....we just can't get our heads around your hatred for them above labour when labour have been as bad. 

Nobody doubts if labour get in we will see even more immigrants, more pandering to tranny nonsense, more restrictions on countrysports.....

Labour announced today they will make it even easier to build on greenbelt.

But look....we are getting dragged in to which shit sandwich is worse again....

I guess our point is most of us don't see immigration and the deviancy of the gay agenda as something unimportant and a distraction that you and sandy claim it to be.....most of us genuinely see those two issues as the main dangers facing our nation today.... perhaps that's the point that we are disagreeing on?

 

  

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Do exchanges like this ever achieve anything? Does anybodys minds ever get changed? In all the years I've been on this site I've only  changed my opinion on 4 occasions. Once at something Greyman said about abortion. He said something like don't judge others until you have walked in their shoes.I changed my mind about libertarianism after a bruising encounter with Wilf lol. Gnasher convinced me a boxer should have been pulled out before he was actually stopped and tatblisters  changed my mind about Arthur  Scargill. Apart from that we just shout at each other. Think I'll,take a break you guys deserve it after reading  my posts .lol

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6 minutes ago, jukel123 said:

Do exchanges like this ever achieve anything? Does anybodys minds ever get changed? In all the years I've been on this site I've only  changed my opinion of 4 occasions. Once at something Greyman said about abortion. He said something like don't judge others until you have walked in their shoes.I changed my mind about libertarianism after a brusing encounter with Wilf lol. Gnasher convinced me a boxer should have been pulled out before he was actually stopped and tatblisters  changed my mind about Arthur  Scargill. Apart from that we just shout at each other. Think I'll,take a break you guys deserve it after reading  my posts .lol

I've changed my mind on Proportional representation after reading Sandy's posts. 

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7 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

I've changed my mind on Proportional representation after reading Sandy's posts. 

I changed my mind on capital punishment after reading sandys posts, I used to oppose it ? 

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I miss Wilf on threads like this. We started off on here daggers drawn on near enough every post and ended up as good internet buddies. His views on race were mad imo, but he was a deep thinker and a compassionate man into the bargain. Come back Wilf. Your hunting site needs you.

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These people with gender dysphoria can cut of the private parts all they want as long as there 18 or over,no child should be let or coerced into doing so,an no tranny women with a penis should be let into the womens toilets end of story,an no freak or drag queen should be teaching children pornographic sexual material under the guise of transgenderism in school or elsewhere.

Leave the kids alone 

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6 minutes ago, Francie, said:

These people with gender dysphoria can cut of the private parts all they want as long as there 18 or over,no child should be let or coerced into doing so,an no tranny women with a penis should be let into the womens toilets end of story,an no freak or drag queen should be teaching children pornographic sexual material under the guise of transgenderism in school or elsewhere.

Leave the kids alone 

Hey , teacher……….

Cheers.

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50 minutes ago, DIDO.1 said:

I've changed my mind on Proportional representation after reading Sandy's posts. 

That was me! But I guess all blacks and lefties look the same.

PR is the weapon to get rid of the tories for ever. They get in every time even though though only a minority of the electorate vote for them

When we get PR we will make gayness compulsory and banish all whites from parliament. All tory voters will be retrospectively punished...severely.

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2 hours ago, jukel123 said:

That was me! But I guess all blacks and lefties look the same.

PR is the weapon to get rid of the tories for ever. They get in every time even though though only a minority of the electorate vote for them

When we get PR we will make gayness compulsory and banish all whites from parliament. All tory voters will be retrospectively punished...severely.

You and myself arnt that different mate .I get your sense of humour ,tad dark ,borderline acceptable but labour ffs .Why not one of the outrunners ,lol.

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