Racoons in UK

[keepdiggin 9,567]

1 hour ago, Deker said:

I have every expectation of there being all sorts of non native wildlife out there for various reasons.  We all know about mink, various deer, grey squirrel, parakeet, various Crayfish, etc., etc., etc....BUT................

It all comes down to lifespan and the potential of breeding populations. 

Wallabies 

[FOXHUNTER 5,021]

4 hours ago, foxdropper said:

According to my FEO mate ,if it’s not officially on the quarry list or an accepted naturalised species you would be doing the country a service by shooting it .Goes for ,dare I say it cats as well .

 

 

I think your FEO is wrong , as I understand it all birds and animals are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 unless they are a game species which have seasons or a pest species covered under the General License. 

Therefore shooting a raccoon would be illegal as it is not on the recognised quarry list for mammals. 

[shaaark 11,338]

30 minutes ago, FOXHUNTER said:

I think your FEO is wrong , as I understand it all birds and animals are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 unless they are a game species which have seasons or a pest species covered under the General License. 

Therefore shooting a raccoon would be illegal as it is not on the recognised quarry list for mammals. 

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[Greyman 31,218]

2 hours ago, FOXHUNTER said:

I think your FEO is wrong , as I understand it all birds and animals are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 unless they are a game species which have seasons or a pest species covered under the General License. 

Therefore shooting a raccoon would be illegal as it is not on the recognised quarry list for mammals. 

Interestingly I have some paperwork in my possession that I can’t / won’t be publicising on here that I would have shown Tim if he turned up about the repercussions of shooting a large cat in the uk, it is between the farmer that wanted to shoot a cat on his land, the  BASC and another body but no you can’t just go round whacking everything that walks and as it’s also a non native species you would struggle with illegally importing stuff as it doesn’t exist in the uk the only way you could obtain a body is by importing it quite a minefield really which is why most stuff that gets shot is either buried or burnt quickly

[BEARINATOR 2,914]

3 hours ago, FOXHUNTER said:

I think your FEO is wrong , as I understand it all birds and animals are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 unless they are a game species which have seasons or a pest species covered under the General License. 

Therefore shooting a raccoon would be illegal as it is not on the recognised quarry list for mammals. 

That’s what gets me as they ain’t native and would take years for them to breed enough to cause problems. Sure most that escaped as pets were caught, boar and munty survived but escaped in bigger numbers 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

3 hours ago, FOXHUNTER said:

I think your FEO is wrong , as I understand it all birds and animals are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 unless they are a game species which have seasons or a pest species covered under the General License. 

Therefore shooting a raccoon would be illegal as it is not on the recognised quarry list for mammals. 

Ask your feo mate .Mines more of a personal friend than in an official capacity .

His thinking is if it dosnt exist here officially how can you be prosecuted for it .I’d stick by it anyway .

 

 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

1 hour ago, Greyman said:

Interestingly I have some paperwork in my possession that I can’t / won’t be publicising on here that I would have shown Tim if he turned up about the repercussions of shooting a large cat in the uk, it is between the farmer that wanted to shoot a cat on his land, the  BASC and another body but no you can’t just go round whacking everything that walks and as it’s also a non native species you would struggle with illegally importing stuff as it doesn’t exist in the uk the only way you could obtain a body is by importing it quite a minefield really which is why most stuff that gets shot is either buried or burnt quickly

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

21 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

1 hour ago, Greyman said:

Interestingly I have some paperwork in my possession that I can’t / won’t be publicising on here that I would have shown Tim if he turned up about the repercussions of shooting a large cat in the uk, it is between the farmer that wanted to shoot a cat on his land, the  BASC and another body but no you can’t just go round whacking everything that walks and as it’s also a non native species you would struggle with illegally importing stuff as it doesn’t exist in the uk the only way you could obtain a body is by importing it quite a minefield really which is why most stuff that gets shot is either buried or burnt quickly

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Why not invite some else Paul .Hate to think someone who may see things different might miss out on the opportunity of a lifetime .
Basc do not make laws,Basc do not enforce laws  ,neither does any other shooting org .
Any incident would purely be a police and landowner matter .

Something that isn’t on our list of naturalised fauna has no protection under our laws only it’s welfare .

If it was in line with livestock protection there’s not a thing anyone could do .

You yourself have stated this …..”

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Im fully aware cats have been shot in the past and that there were undoubtedly releases after the legislation .It’s the whole breeding and living among us thing now I don’t buy into and this was backed up after 470 odd pages of every Tom ,Dick and Harry chipping in with no conclusion .

My theory is you have stopped putting stuff up yourself because I feel your now unsure as to it’s providence and have actually taken on board some of the concerns myself and others have over what’s been presented .

Nice calm thread though so let’s keep it that way

 

[mackem 29,521]

7 hours ago, keepdiggin said:

Wallabies 

They are breeding in the UK, this guy found proof. 

 

[comanche 3,264]

According to Government guidelines if a non native species is trapped by someone competant in wildlife management it should either be turned over to an organisation or person with a relevant licence to keep it or humanely killed .

So it is permissable to kill one . Presumably with a gun if that's the most humane way. 

The guidelines don't mention killing one that's free roaming. They just say it should be reported if it's  on the list of "exotics".

So l guess it would come down to the "reasonable excuse" defence if it ever came to a Court case .

 

 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

Anyway saw another otter very close today and got some video off a fishing stage .Pity this forum dosnt support short vids like others do .

[Daniel cain 48,295]

23 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Anyway saw another otter very close today and got some video off a fishing stage .Pity this forum dosnt support short vids like others do .

I upload my videos to YouTube and share from there

 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

Just now, Daniel cain said:

I upload my videos to YouTube and share from there

 

I know mate .I have a channel but it’s a ball ache isn’t it .

[Daniel cain 48,295]

1 minute ago, foxdropper said:

I know mate .I have a channel but it’s a ball ache isn’t it .

just a few seconds out of your life mate

[EDDIE B 3,169]

6 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

I know mate .I have a channel but it’s a ball ache isn’t it .

Uploading to YouTube is a doddle. Editing beforehand is a feckin nightmare