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There's been some heavy threads lately, so I went in the loft to find some pics that might lighten things up a bit. I found some old pics from around 45 years ago when I challenged a Shotokan Int

All have to start somewhere but all the  training in the world aren't going to give someone the bollocks when the shit hits the fan. Having said that, a little bit of knowledge will usually get people

Just seems like taunting someone who's got learning difficulties to me..... wankers by the sounds of them 

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What was all that about years ago folk taking up all that hong kong fuey shit thinking it would make them a bad ass in a straightener ?

For kids yes i get it,nice gentle little introduction to sport.....but grown men,always a peculiar one i thought.

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21 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

What was all that about years ago folk taking up all that hong kong fuey shit thinking it would make them a bad ass in a straightener ?

For kids yes i get it,nice gentle little introduction to sport.....but grown men,always a peculiar one i thought.

mixed martial artist will beat a boxer most times mate easily imagine usyk v jon jones ? or joshua or fury it would be embarrassing 

 

nothing gentle about getting kicked to or elbow or knee to the head gnash is take getting punch over that any day 

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On 11/12/2022 at 21:49, mC HULL said:

mixed martial artist will beat a boxer most times mate easily imagine usyk v jon jones ? or joshua or fury it would be embarrassing 

 

nothing gentle about getting kicked to or elbow or knee to the head gnash is take getting punch over that any day 

Yes but whats that got to do with Karate ?.....Ufc itself was originally about finding out " what works " in a real fight......and Karate has never or will ever be used,proofs in the pudding.

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Mixed martial arts ufc etc were born from Bruce lee’s style of fighting which is called jeet Kun do. He was already a kung fu master but thought it was too restrictive and like most martial arts relied on set moves that you practiced almost robotically. He studied all forms of fighting and grappling and and invented jeet kun do which incorporated the best aspects of all the fighting disciplines. 

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4 minutes ago, socks said:

Mixed martial arts ufc etc were born from Bruce lee’s style of fighting which is called jeet Kun do. He was already a kung fu master but thought it was too restrictive and like most martial arts relied on set moves that you practiced almost robotically. He studied all forms of fighting and grappling and and invented jeet kun do which incorporated the best aspects of all the fighting disciplines. 

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31 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Yes but whats that got to do with Karate ?.....Ufc itself was originally about finding out " what works " in a real fight......and Karate has never or will ever be used,proofs in the pudding.

there’s been ufc champions with a karate background mate 

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5 minutes ago, socks said:

Mixed martial arts ufc etc were born from Bruce lee’s style of fighting which is called jeet Kun do. He was already a kung fu master but thought it was too restrictive and like most martial arts relied on set moves that you practiced almost robotically. He studied all forms of fighting and grappling and and invented jeet kun do which incorporated the best aspects of all the fighting disciplines. 

Jeet Kune Do is primarily a philosophy of life and physical transcendence,many people read Bruce Lee's writings and confuse reading it with understanding it very little of it was about " fighting " as such but more about exploring the edges of human potential..........in terms of mma/ufc it could just as easily be argued that wrestling/boxing are both more effective than true martial arts....hence the original point that " Karate " itself was found wanting as an option in a real fight.

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20 minutes ago, mC HULL said:

there’s been ufc champions with a karate background mate 

Why do you keep arguing a different point to whats being debated....." Karate " itself as a martial art has never been used succesfully in mma.

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4 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Jeet Kune Do is primarily a philosophy of life and physical transcendence,many people read Bruce Lee's writings and confuse reading it with understanding it very little of it was about " fighting " as such but more about exploring the edges of human potential..........in terms of mma/ufc it could just as easily be argued that wrestling/boxing are both more effective than true martial arts....hence the original point that " Karate " itself was found wanting as an option in a real fight.

Yes it was a philosophy and a way of being which is true of all eastern martial arts. But jeet kun do is a taught and practised form of martial arts that was designed perfected and taught by Bruce Lee. It’s widely acknowledged as the forerunner to mma. It is a serious martial art that is designed to be brutal and effective in a fight not look good dancing around a dojo. 

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43 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Why do you keep arguing a different point to whats being debated....." Karate " itself as a martial art has never been used succesfully in mma.

some of the best strikers ever have a karate background mist of the kick-boxers started with karate king fu and taekwondo it’s stand up striking mma is mixed martial arts not just one and karate has been successful in the ufc 

 

 

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39 minutes ago, socks said:

Yes it was a philosophy and a way of being which is true of all eastern martial arts. But jeet kun do is a taught and practised form of martial arts that was designed perfected and taught by Bruce Lee. It’s widely acknowledged as the forerunner to mma. It is a serious martial art that is designed to be brutal and effective in a fight not look good dancing around a dojo. 

bruce lee incorporate different style from king fu to boxing in jest kun do as you say really was the first to see one style wasnt the way 

 

boxing wrestling are ok 

but i’d say karate and jiu jitsu would be a much better background both traditional martial arts gnash ?

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Boxing, muay Thai, and Brazilian jiu-jitsu is the combination for a successful mixed martial artist, not jeet kun do, not karate, not taekwondo, not putting any style down, but it is the full on real way of training in Boxing and muay Thai that teach you how to go toe to toe hitting heavy, and taking the impact. looking back at karate competitors, Andy Hug, Francisco Filho, and Semmy Schilt, they must have had a good bit of coaching on Thai pads to be able to compete in K1, the practice of 1 technique kicking a big oblong shield over and over again isn't realistic like focus pads, Thai pads, bag work,shadow boxing etc. Somebody should make a pad video for everyone to have a :icon_eek: at 

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