Coyote dogs with a drone

[Wolfdog91 6,268]

1 hour ago, mackem said:

So it's exactly the same as here then

To a large part yeah get really interesting when on of our Russian members gets on a rant 

[mackem 23,802]

28 minutes ago, Wolfdog91 said:

To a large part yeah get really interesting when on of our Russian members gets on a rant 

You need some Ukrainians, Chinese, and Taiwanese members to even things out

[THE STIFFMEISTER 14,558]

I became very disillusioned with American running dogs after reading the Dutch salmon book . 

before any one starts the usual different species , different animals etc it just seemed like they f****d about with the dogs kicking stuff up . 
 

there was one picture I think with four dogs on a hare . That’s chip shop as f**k in anyones eyes over here but fair play you have to take into account the size of the country they are running and the capabilities of the prey . 
 

i just don’t see the parity in what we do with dogs to over there , imho we’re head and shoulders above others at the old running game  

[jukel123 6,570]

If those greyhounds had been ex track dogs they would have been keener. Track dogs I have seen on prey have been psychos. They know nothing else but to chase and seize.

In fox packs you always get hounds which will grab, others will be more flirty.

The wolf pack on this thread also shows that some are more prepared to take a risk than others.

The dog family are like people: some will take the lead whereas others will hold back even when they have promised support. Some will do all the work, others will do f**k all  but expect a full share of the rewards.

Edited October 21, 2022 by jukel123

[foxdropper 17,092]

10 hours ago, WILF said:

Yeah, but the dogs in that video obviously CANT do it, despite there being 3 of the mutts…..those dogs were wankers.

Does it really matter Wilf .You and I wouldn’t put up with a jacker on fox but others may not be so fortunate in their canine choice .The real fact is they are out mobbing coyotes that was taken on its own turf .I’ve seen lads here bring the same jacker week after week that runs beside a fox always just out of reach to the owner but plain to see it’s never going to strike for glory .

That same chap enjoys his dog as much as the next .Sometimes they get the real deal if they are connected or breed lucky but often as not he will be happy with rabbits on which I’ve never seen a jacker .Teeth is a specialist thing here if done regular but the odd all rounder does appear .

I used to be very much into culling shite and wouldn’t entertain a jacker in kennels but age has mellowed me to just enjoy being out .Those into the dog game and still mad keen at my age have my respect mate and should ,if into teeth ,have the right gear by now .

To me the halcyon days are long gone and I’d rather kill a fox with a rifle than own a dog that does nowadays .Wouldn’t turn down an invite mind but owning one dosnt have the same draw anymore .

Fair play to you if you are my age and still mad for the right stuff Wilf .

[jukel123 6,570]

Just now, foxdropper said:

Does it really matter Wilf .You and I wouldn’t put up with a jacker on fox but others may not be so fortunate in their canine choice .The real fact is they are out mobbing coyotes that was taken on its own turf .I’ve seen lads here bring the same jacker week after week that runs beside a fox always just out of reach to the owner but plain to see it’s never going to strike for glory .

That same chap enjoys his dog as much as the next .Sometimes they get the real deal if they are connected or breed lucky but often as not he will be happy with rabbits on which I’ve never seen a jacker .Teeth is a specialist thing here if done regular but the odd all rounder does appear .

I used to be very much into culling shite and wouldn’t entertain a jacker in kennels but age has mellowed me to just enjoy being out .Those into the dog game and still mad keen at my age have my respect mate and should ,if into teeth ,have the right gear by now .

To me the halcyon days are long gone and I’d rather kill a fox with a rifle than own a dog that does nowadays .Wouldn’t turn down an invite mind but owning one dosnt have the same draw anymore .

Fair play to you if you are my age and still mad for the right stuff Wilf .

I'm getting on, but when my 14 year old bitch gives up the ghost, I will get another lurcher. If it turns out to be a pot licker so what? I like having a dog about the place. A house seems empty without one.

Age mellows a person. I once rehomed a deer/ grey years ago because it had no minerals. But I wish I'd kept it. It was a cracking companion dog.

[foxdropper 17,092]

We’ve never had numbers like that mate .Even back in the day 30 was hell of a night .

[foxdropper 17,092]

That was between 3 of us

[jukel123 6,570]

Just now, W. Katchum said:

Iv saw a few dogs sickened/ruined/jacked on rabbits, few nights a week most of the season getting half decent bags soon let’s you know how much drive a dog has got

I'm ashamed to say I ran a dog almost to the point of collapse on rabbits at night. I was  young and stupid and didn't realise a dog has its limits. It was a cracking dog though. It still wanted to run even though it was completely  exhausted. It didn't sicken it for future nights despite its dickhead owner.

[WILF 44,325]

44 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

Does it really matter Wilf .You and I wouldn’t put up with a jacker on fox but others may not be so fortunate in their canine choice .The real fact is they are out mobbing coyotes that was taken on its own turf .I’ve seen lads here bring the same jacker week after week that runs beside a fox always just out of reach to the owner but plain to see it’s never going to strike for glory .

That same chap enjoys his dog as much as the next .Sometimes they get the real deal if they are connected or breed lucky but often as not he will be happy with rabbits on which I’ve never seen a jacker .Teeth is a specialist thing here if done regular but the odd all rounder does appear .

I used to be very much into culling shite and wouldn’t entertain a jacker in kennels but age has mellowed me to just enjoy being out .Those into the dog game and still mad keen at my age have my respect mate and should ,if into teeth ,have the right gear by now .

To me the halcyon days are long gone and I’d rather kill a fox with a rifle than own a dog that does nowadays .Wouldn’t turn down an invite mind but owning one dosnt have the same draw anymore .

Fair play to you if you are my age and still mad for the right stuff Wilf .

I’m not mad for anything now days mate but if I did ever have another dog (and I won’t because there isn’t the proper graft for one) I still couldn’t tolerate a wanker even for just messing about mate……they just ain’t worth the time and effort and believe me, I’ve owned a few.

[jukel123 6,570]

24 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Fcukin hell haha don’t get me wrong you ain’t guaranteed nowt up here, but I did even take on a 6 year old pet whippet an ended up talking 30 a couple nights a week, any more an she just lost condition, was a fun bag tho watchin her

Last time I was in your neck of the woods It was 30 rabbits to a half acre of grass! I've got good numbers now, but like every back end, the myxie arrives and decimates them. 

[socks 32,253]

It costs as much to feed a shit dog as it does a top class dog. 

[foxdropper 17,092]

30 minutes ago, socks said:

It costs as much to feed a shit dog as it does a top class dog. 

It does socks but for some a dog is for life not just a tool to be discarded .f**k I’m sounding like an amateur .

 

[WILF 44,325]

3 minutes ago, foxdropper said:

It does socks but for some a dog is for life not just a tool to be discarded .f**k I’m sounding like an amateur .

 

Not looking for an argument because I think it’s an interesting topic of conversation but your “dog for life, pet home” for working dogs is probably a lot to do with how hard it is to find decent stuff……in reality, they should be gone.

But I totally get people like their pets, I do, I have a couple of pets myself…..mongrels, both had their bits out so they can never breed.

And I don’t think discarded is the right word, I think of it more as a responsibility.

[dogmandont 9,357]

1 hour ago, foxdropper said:

It does socks but for some a dog is for life not just a tool to be discarded .f**k I’m sounding like an amateur .

 

Would you accept having to work 3 terriers in a earth to dig a single fox?  Didn't think so, similar thing with lurchers.