Surprise, surprise !

[mC HULL 10,440]

5 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

So folk like Ian Huntley, Fred and rose west, the Yorkshire ripper, Jimmy saville, and all of them every day nonces and rapists, and blokes who beat shit out of their wives every night after ten cans of Stella. That’s all because of the immigrants ? 

i think you struggle to grasp it sheepchaser because well your always chasing sheep mate lol 

i could show you an area full of immigrants drop you one end pick you up at the other i recon youd get a fair idea what wilf is saying mate lol

[WILF 44,334]

1 minute ago, SheepChaser said:

So folk like Ian Huntley, Fred and rose west, the Yorkshire ripper, Jimmy saville, and all of them every day nonces and rapists, and blokes who beat shit out of their wives every night after ten cans of Stella. That’s all because of the immigrants ? 

Are you doing that spread the blame thing again ?

Mate, it’s a weak argument that is always rather boringly used by those who don’t want to state the obvious.

We had those problems, they are terrible problems but they are ours…..what you don’t do is top them up with something even worse ! 
 

You know, and I know, and everybody with a logical mind knows that it’s madness.

We worked very hard to put an end to degradation and destitution and abuses of all kinds in the era post “The Rakes Progress” set of paintings and drawings.

Then 1947 came along and we invited something every bit as bad and in many cases much worse into the fold, not only invited but promoted it in front of what we had……it’s a disaster !

[chartpolski 20,427]

We've allways had our fair share of indigenous wrong 'uns..........but why are we importing foreign wrong 'uns.

Because we have our own scum, it doesn't make it right to import more........

Cheers.

[Francie 6,362]

3 hours ago, sandymere said:

Cuts to numbers of police,  social workers and the drive into austerity/poverty are a result of government policy and are having a massive impact on crime in this country. 

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We are fast becoming the slums of Europe. 

Germany has 336 police per 100k we have 211.

Have you seen don cheatles face when he found out native americans/Indians enslaved his ancestors lol 

He didn't know they had African slaves lol

Should have done his homework before going on the show.

[mackem 23,825]

8 minutes ago, Francie said:

Have you seen don cheatles face when he found out native americans/Indians enslaved his ancestors lol 

He didn't know they had African slaves lol

Should have done his homework before going on the show.

 

[Francie 6,362]

1 minute ago, mackem said:

 

That's the one mack

[mackem 23,825]

9 minutes ago, Francie said:

That's the one mack

No mileage for him in his ancestors owners, they were persecuted people in their own right so no chance of reparation or sympathy. 

[mC HULL 10,440]

they think only the white man enslaved lol 

it was a white man who lobbied to end the slave trade stopped 3/4s of it william wilberforce from hull 

[SheepChaser 8,082]

2 hours ago, chartpolski said:

We've allways had our fair share of indigenous wrong 'uns..........but why are we importing foreign wrong 'uns.

Because we have our own scum, it doesn't make it right to import more........

Cheers.

Agreed ! And I’ve never argued against that.

All I’m saying is trying to blame all of our evils on immigration just weakens the argument.

The argument should be just like you said - we have enough of our own evils and shit to sort out we don’t need to be taking in other peoples !!!!

 

[gnasher16 29,664]

21 hours ago, SheepChaser said:

I’m not in any way debating that there is a major cultural issue amongst Pakistani makes which means they have a predisposition to sexual abuse of young white girls.

im not sure it’s sport it’s just sexual depravity, plain and simple. 
 

Let’s not lie, the Catholic Church are masters at institutional child abuse and covering it up.

For a long time people have chosen not to see child abuse and grooming, on both a large and small scale.

Sadly plenty of folk do pat each other on the backs for shagging vulnerable teens 16-18......

What do you think the most common search term is on Internet porn searches ?

im not trying to share the blame and before sone moron says it, I’m not trying to justify child abuse .:.:::: and I’m not saying that we have a major issue wirh Pakistani gangs.

What’s scary is how common it is. When I worked with kids it made me sick how much I dealt with rape and sexual abuse - probably every day and certainly multiple times a week. These would mostly have been first time disclosures, so I was the guy they came to see to tell someone that they were being abused or had been raped.  Family and extended family was incredibly common sadly. 

It seems obvious to me that you are in some way trying to deflect away from the basic instinctive Pakistani culture of having sex with children......why is the mystery to me !

Yes theres oddballs,weirdos and sickos in all races.....but none that i am aware of have made it a culture whereby a man is respected and held in high esteem the younger the child he fucks......and these are the people we are being forced to " integrate " with.

[chartpolski 20,427]

If your a member or supporter of the likes of ISIS, Al Quada, Bokha Haram, Al Shabbab or any of the other terrorist organisations that are now being beaten, what do you do ?

Surrender to the people who will most likely give you a 7.62 in the back of the head ?

Or destroy all your identification, pay people smugglers to get you to a country that will put you up in a hotel, give you three square a day, clothe you, give you spending money and a mobile 'phone, and even if your asylum application fails, will provide you with free, left wing lawyers to appeal ad infinitum to make sure you are never deported ?

Not a very agonising choice to make......is it ?

Cheers.

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[gnasher16 29,664]

20 hours ago, WILF said:

Or just find a bird of your own type in your own country similar in age.

Yes but have you seen the state of most of the gormless no mark looking c**ts that cop for them Thai things.....hence,desperate people have to take desperate measures.

[SheepChaser 8,082]

3 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

It seems obvious to me that you are in some way trying to deflect away from the basic instinctive Pakistani culture of having sex with children......why is the mystery to me !

Yes theres oddballs,weirdos and sickos in all races.....but none that i am aware of have made it a culture whereby a man is respected and held in high esteem the younger the child he fucks......and these are the people we are being forced to " integrate " with.

Have you actually read what I’ve written. I’ve said it over and over I think they’re is a major issue with Pakistani grooming gangs. I don’t want then here any more than you do mate. 
 

I just think to boil it down to “it only happens cos the Pakis” are here isn’t a very strong argument.

All those kind of scum need sorting out - I agree don’t let those c**ts in. But also we need to sort out our system that allows it to happen and for folk to get away with it .... whatever colour they are ! 

 

[gnasher16 29,664]

18 minutes ago, SheepChaser said:

Have you actually read what I’ve written. I’ve said it over and over I think they’re is a major issue with Pakistani grooming gangs. I don’t want then here any more than you do mate. 
 

I just think to boil it down to “it only happens cos the Pakis” are here isn’t a very strong argument.

All those kind of scum need sorting out - I agree don’t let those c**ts in. But also we need to sort out our system that allows it to happen and for folk to get away with it .... whatever colour they are ! 

 

But you started off ranting on about organised criminal groups in Britain as though we all commit the same crimes under the same roof.....you seem to constantly want to bring things back on our own doorstep.....why is that ?

Yes we have our own problems that we are familiar with as they are OUR problems........but why can you not seem to accept that many of the crimes being put in front of us today we are not familiar with as they are here solely on the back of immigration ?

Race is a crucial factor in determining how our society and civilisation will be ....why do we need to be so self aware and critical in judging the direction we want it to go ?

[SheepChaser 8,082]

21 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

But you started off ranting on about organised criminal groups in Britain as though we all commit the same crimes under the same roof.....you seem to constantly want to bring things back on our own doorstep.....why is that ?

Yes we have our own problems that we are familiar with as they are OUR problems........but why can you not seem to accept that many of the crimes being put in front of us today we are not familiar with as they are here solely on the back of immigration ?

Race is a crucial factor in determining how our society and civilisation will be ....why do we need to be so self aware and critical in judging the direction we want it to go ?

Again I think you missed my point.

What I said was - in answer to one possible reason why the police struggle to get convictions with these Pakistani grooming gangs is unlike an individual abuser they are effectively an organised crime group which specialises in child grooming (amongst other things). It makes it harder to infiltrate etc I would assume.

it’s called critical thinking. It’s how we move forward and work out how to beat stuff. 
 

We don’t need to argue if Pakistani grooming gangs are good or bad. They are bad. We also don’t need to argue about whether we should let them in or not.... they are already here and a problem. We need to work out what it is about our system which means this can happen and we struggle to prosecute and remove them. 
 

Please don’t think that because I am interested in academic discussion that I don’t think they are scum and want them gone.