Greb147 6,808 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, South hams hunter said: even 15/20 years ago he would have looked silly - ferdinand, terry, ashley cole, stam, neville and maybe even carragher wouldnt have allowed someone to just dribble past John Terry couldn't even fend off his mates missus.... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,326 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, South hams hunter said: even 15/20 years ago he would have looked silly - ferdinand, terry, ashley cole, stam, neville and maybe even carragher wouldnt have allowed someone to just dribble past Those players wouldn’t last the 1st half in the modern game, They would be sent off ! rule changes have allowed mediocre players to look good and great players to look exceptional ! People cant say Ronaldo or Messi or whoever are the best ever, they are certainly right up there in the positions they play but would they be as good as Paulo Maldini at left back ?......I seriously doubt it ! No such thing as “the best”.......if there was a best and it was based just on honours and achievements then the original Ronaldo is the best there has ever been ! It will genuinely take you 10 minutes plus to read all his honours and records ! Edited May 18, 2021 by WILF 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,326 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, sid g said: out of interest i looked Messi vs. Ronaldo: trophies and personal awards | The Week UK WWW.THEWEEK.CO.UK The duo have plenty of awards to put in their trophy cabinets Wrong Ronaldo mate 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,209 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, WILF said: Those players wouldn’t last the 1st half in the modern game, They would be sent off ! rule changes have allowed mediocre players to look good and great players to look exceptional ! People cant say Ronaldo or Messi or whoever are the best ever, they are certainly right up there in the positions they play but would they be as good as Paulo Maldini at left back ?......I seriously doubt it ! No such thing as “the best”.......if there was a best and it was based just on honours and achievements then the original Ronaldo is the best there has ever been ! It will genuinely take you 10 minutes plus to read all his honours and records ! Was gonna mention original Ronaldo... just amazing! C Ronaldo is a player imo who could play in any era, he is physically good enough, he has the lot, good in the air, both feet, strong, fast.. But this goat is impossible, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Maradona...Maldini as you say was sheer class... and of course messi, but for me Ronaldo tops him, he's done it in England, Spain.and Italy plus for his country, love watching Messi... but Ronaldo is another level.. Edited May 18, 2021 by NEWKID 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,326 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer) - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Go to career statistics and honours......mind blowing ! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,209 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just now, WILF said: Ronaldo (Brazilian footballer) - Wikipedia EN.M.WIKIPEDIA.ORG Go to career statistics and honours......mind blowing ! Imagine if he had 2 knees...lol 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, WILF said: Those players wouldn’t last the 1st half in the modern game, They would be sent off ! yes thats true, players with grit. my point was though best wouldnt have just dribbled past them all like he did in that video wilf would he 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 Don't know how anyone can see these or them wouldn't last in today's game. Raise them in today's world with the sports science behind them and they would still be greats. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Was gonna mention original Ronaldo... just amazing! Ronaldo is a player imo who could play in any era, he is physically good enough, he has the lot, good in the air, both feet, strong, fast.. But this goat is impossible, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Maradona...Maldini as you say was sheer class... and of course messi, but for me Ronaldo tops him, he's done it in England, Spain.and Italy plus for his country, love watching Messi... but Ronaldo is another level.. comparing Ronaldo and Messi was described to me before as a whippet lurcher and a greyhound lurcher. that typical 'yeah but if Messi was Ronaldo's size' ...but he's not and that's not Ronaldo's problem, its Messi' Edited May 18, 2021 by South hams hunter spelling 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
South hams hunter 8,837 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Greb147 said: Don't know how anyone can see these or them wouldn't last in today's game. Raise them in today's world with the sports science behind them and they would still be greats. they wouldnt, the same as todays boxers wouldn't have lasted in the 70/80/90 - some eras just have awesome athletes and best was the best of a bad bunch. Becks was worth 5 Bests 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,326 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, NEWKID said: Was gonna mention original Ronaldo... just amazing! C Ronaldo is a player imo who could play in any era, he is physically good enough, he has the lot, good in the air, both feet, strong, fast.. But this goat is impossible, Ronaldinho, Zidane, Maradona...Maldini as you say was sheer class... and of course messi, but for me Ronaldo tops him, he's done it in England, Spain.and Italy plus for his country, love watching Messi... but Ronaldo is another level.. I’d say Christiano Ronaldo is probably one of the greatest examples there has ever been to young players, if not the greatest. He created himself and that is something they should be promoting to every young player. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NEWKID 26,209 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, WILF said: I’d say Christiano Ronaldo is probably one of the greatest examples there has ever been to young players, if not the greatest. He created himself and that is something they should be promoting to every young player. Enough talent but tons of graft...he said when he got to UTD he would be the best player in the world...well he weren't far wrong 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,326 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, NEWKID said: Enough talent but tons of graft...he said when he got to UTD he would be the best player in the world...well he weren't far wrong Ability without the mind don’t mean much mate, don’t need to tell you that I know. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Greb147 6,808 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 9 minutes ago, South hams hunter said: they wouldnt, the same as todays boxers wouldn't have lasted in the 70/80/90 - some eras just have awesome athletes and best was the best of a bad bunch. Becks was worth 5 Bests You can't say that, it's all subjective. It's not like athletics where you are racing against the stopwatch, even that isn't entirely accurate as running equipment and tracks have improved. It's just as much about nurture as it is nature these days, there's always been talented humans and there always will be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WILF 44,326 Posted May 18, 2021 Report Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, sid g said: Love him or loath him, that lad is a fantastic player no question about it mate 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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