St George’s day

[Greb147 6,810]

8 minutes ago, Lenmcharristar said:

Surely you evolutionists know that modern civilisation started in the middle east??? And we are menat to be african mixed with neanderthal, and the far east african mixed with denisovian? 

So what, where do you think the ancestors of neanderthals came from? 

And did you forget that neanderthal DNA has been found in Africans? 

[Greb147 6,810]

Just now, WILF said:

Speak for yourself Kunta Kinti ! Lol 

I speak for you as well Gupta.

[Chid 6,794]

59 minutes ago, Greb147 said:

No, it really isn't, nothing to do with the BBC. 

And if you go back far enough then yes we were African.

 

my African brothers

[Lenmcharristar 10,296]

6 minutes ago, Chid said:

my African brothers

Terrys chocolate orange. I forgot about those , the black orange. 

[Ken's Deputy 4,462]

Second from the left? Diane Abbott, yeah?

[gnasher16 31,506]

On 23/04/2021 at 20:15, eastcoast said:

A left of field comment possibly but something that I have long thought to be true in regard to the English celebrating St. George's day.

I am old enough to have seen changes in England. When I was young St. George's day was not celebrated. No one cared. It was not an issue.

All the time that I have lived the Irish, Scots and Welsh have celebrated their patron saint's day. The English did not.

The reason, in my opinion without wanting to offend anyone is this:

The Irish, Scots and Welsh are defeated countries. Historically that cannot be argued with? Defeated by the English and in one form or the other forced to live under English rule in varying degrees spanning centuries. I am not defended the rights or wrongs of this.

For one day a year they took the opportunity to put 2 fingers up to the English and embrace their own nationality by celebrating their patron saint. Far more complicated than that of course and more than one day a year in many cases but...

The English never felt the need to do this. No one ever stopped them flying their flag or stopped them "being English". Until about the 1980's and full on in the 1990's.

No foreign nation invaded. No wars were fought and lost. A more deviant force started to defeat the English from within. And dictate how they lived and disassemble that which had gone before.

That is when the English started to feel the need to celebrate their patron saint. As defeated nations do.

 

Really good interesting post that squire.....certainly worth thinking about like. 

[sandymere 8,263]

From a different angle isn't it time we came up with a British Patron Saint?

Being a saint would suggest it being a Christian, although perhaps others could be considered on merit. I'd say Saint Edmund, he was English and died for his religion, tradition would have it he was killed by Ivor the Boneless and Ubber as he refused to give up his faith. The St George cross as the flag and St Edmund as patron saint, take a bit of pride in our heritage. Plus he was Patron saint in the past.

Edmund the Martyr - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

[WILF 50,303]

19 minutes ago, sandymere said:

From a different angle isn't it time we came up with a British Patron Saint?

Being a saint would suggest it being a Christian, although perhaps others could be considered on merit. I'd say Saint Edmund, he was English and died for his religion, tradition would have it he was killed by Ivor the Boneless and Ubber as he refused to give up his faith. The St George cross as the flag and St Edmund as patron saint, take a bit of pride in our heritage. Plus he was Patron saint in the past.

Edmund the Martyr - Wikipedia

EN.WIKIPEDIA.ORG

 

That’s really interesting reading that is mate.

Says he was the Patron Saint of England prior to St George and is also the patron saint of pandemics !! Lol 

I like stuff like that.

[mushroom 14,100]

On 24/04/2021 at 22:31, Greb147 said:

So what, where do you think the ancestors of neanderthals came from? 

And did you forget that neanderthal DNA has been found in Africans? 

I'm pretty sure that sub saharan Africans are the only human race without Neanderthal DNA in their genome from original interbreeding with Neanderthals (30,000+ years ago). They carry it because of breeding with European and middle eastern populations, around 6-10,000 years ago, until present day. Every human from non sub Saharan populations, carry a minimum of 2% Neanderthal DNA, Africans much less (around 1%) and the further south in Africa you go, the % becomes less and less, until non existent. 

[Greb147 6,810]

18 minutes ago, mushroom said:

I'm pretty sure that sub saharan Africans are the only human race without Neanderthal DNA in their genome from original interbreeding with Neanderthals (30,000+ years ago). They carry it because of breeding with European and middle eastern populations, around 6-10,000 years ago, until present day. Every human from non sub Saharan populations, carry a minimum of 2% Neanderthal DNA, Africans much less (around 1%) and the further south in Africa you go, the % becomes less and less, until non existent. 

That's it, they believe it was carried back by modern humans when they migrated back in to Africa. 

People have the misconception that there was this one mass migration and that was that, in reality there has been waves of migration for millennia. 

 

[mushroom 14,100]

1 hour ago, Greb147 said:

That's it, they believe it was carried back by modern humans when they migrated back in to Africa. 

People have the misconception that there was this one mass migration and that was that, in reality there has been waves of migration for millennia. 

 

I think it was more than likely rape and pillage, as opposed to migrating back to the old country.

Pure black populations do not have any Neanderthal DNA.

[Greb147 6,810]

Just now, mushroom said:

I think it was more than likely rape and pillage, as opposed to migrating back to the old country.

Pure black populations do not have any Neanderthal DNA.

That may not be true, it's not even known if the same DNA was from European migration in to Africa or from a common ancestor that Africans shared with Neanderthals. 

[Lenmcharristar 10,296]

4 hours ago, mushroom said:

I'm pretty sure that sub saharan Africans are the only human race without Neanderthal DNA in their genome from original interbreeding with Neanderthals (30,000+ years ago). They carry it because of breeding with European and middle eastern populations, around 6-10,000 years ago, until present day. Every human from non sub Saharan populations, carry a minimum of 2% Neanderthal DNA, Africans much less (around 1%) and the further south in Africa you go, the % becomes less and less, until non existent. 

So what your saying is that the puree african is a born bred lazy ba$tard???

[Ken's Deputy 4,462]

4 hours ago, Greb147 said:

That's it, they believe it was carried back by modern humans when they migrated back in to Africa.

 Top man. I applaud the subtle distinction there, between Humans and Africans

[mushroom 14,100]

1 hour ago, Lenmcharristar said:

So what your saying is that the puree african is a born bred lazy ba$tard???

Er no! I'm saying neanderthal blood is not in their DNA, like ours, or Asians or middle easterns or Polynesians or south Americans or north American natives etc. Neanderthals never made it to Africa! The rest of us went back, fuucked about a bit and left the family behind