talt 878 Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 I have often wondered about Catahoula Leopard dogs from the states, they breed merle to merle and seem to get away with it or rather you don't hear much about it. Quote Link to post
TOMO 24,876 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 13 hours ago, gnipper said: Phil does it not happen with the cattle dogs? They have a weird merle type coat don't they? i think theres is from dalmation blood...so i dont think its the same......but i could be wrong Quote Link to post
TOMO 24,876 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 9 hours ago, talt said: I have often wondered about Catahoula Leopard dogs from the states, they breed merle to merle and seem to get away with it or rather you don't hear much about it. interesting point Quote Link to post
Daniel cain 42,884 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 See loads of merles about by us..french bulldogs,British bulldogs,teckels,bullies,lad I know just payed 18k for a merle chow chow...don't look real...like some cnuts given it a blow over with a can of spray 1 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 3,827 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 13 hours ago, gnipper said: Phil does it not happen with the cattle dogs? They have a weird merle type coat don't they? There are heaps of deaf cattle dogs born here. Quote Link to post
TOMO 24,876 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Aussie Whip said: There are heaps of deaf cattle dogs born here. oh i might be wrong then Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,055 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) AFAIK pedigree australian shepherds are often bred merle to merle too. Maybe the inheritance of genetic problems is bred out to some extent by heavy culling. Probably not.... Edited March 25, 2021 by Maximus Ferret Quote Link to post
Neal 1,787 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 1 hour ago, TOMO said: i think theres is from dalmation blood...so i dont think its the same......but i could be wrong I always thought that too. However, my wife bought me a book for my birthday called "The Dogs Which Made Australia," and I was amazed by how much stuff I'd always assumed was true about heelers and kelpies was simply made up by Robert Kaleski. By the end of the book he'd been made to sound like the Australian version of Plummer...but much worse. He was one of those people who based his assumptions of what breeds were in a dog purely on physical appearance with no evidence from how they work, temperament etc. 2 Quote Link to post
OldPhil 5,361 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 (edited) On 25/03/2021 at 09:32, Neal said: I always thought that too. However, my wife bought me a book for my birthday called "The Dogs Which Made Australia," and I was amazed by how much stuff I'd always assumed was true about heelers and kelpies was simply made up by Robert Kaleski. By the end of the book he'd been made to sound like the Australian version of Plummer...but much worse. He was one of those people who based his assumptions of what breeds were in a dog purely on physical appearance with no evidence from how they work, temperament etc. You are right Neal Regardless of what has often been claimed and vociferously denied, ..I believe passionately, that both Kelpie Sheepdogs and Australian Cattle Dogs have a Dingo ancestor.. Wild dogs don't hunt for fun,...staying alive is a serious fecking business,...I believe it is this primitive desire to behave in a certain manner that makes them, so intense. I love both breeds and of course,...the lurchers created from them.... Edited July 4, 2021 by OldPhil 6 Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 3,827 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 3 hours ago, OldPhil said: I love both breeds and of course,...the lurchers created from them.. I've seen some decent ones, that wild survival instinct is good I believe for making decisions and having more self preservation when hunting. I think a straight cross dingo/running dog may be hard to control, I've never seen one though. Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 3,827 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 15 hours ago, TOMO said: oh i might be wrong then I always believed the deafness in cattle dogs came from the white gene as they are born white. I don't think their colour is classed as merle, I might be wrong. Quote Link to post
Aussie Whip 3,827 Posted March 25, 2021 Report Share Posted March 25, 2021 14 hours ago, Neal said: He was one of those people who based his assumptions of what breeds were in a dog purely on physical appearance with no evidence from how they work, temperament etc. Seen plenty of books like that, I'd rather talk to blokes who work and live dogs. 2 Quote Link to post
whitefeet4190 1,724 Posted March 26, 2021 Report Share Posted March 26, 2021 Def lurchers are nothing new mate I’ve had loads of def dogs before and got one in the kennel now 4 Quote Link to post
Moocher71 4,044 Posted March 27, 2021 Report Share Posted March 27, 2021 Like been said poor mites and a trip to the vets would have put an end to pregnancy and poor pups wouldn't have suffered ,never breed merl to merl as your going to be heart broken if you do 1 Quote Link to post
mush 204 Posted March 29, 2021 Report Share Posted March 29, 2021 They do it all time with show dogs,meant to get better colour merles . 1 Quote Link to post
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