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6 minutes ago, chartpolski said:

What's the thoughts on the "Big Crunch" ? 

Isnt It about gravity being a measurable constant, and when the universal expansion reaches a certain point it will start contracting ?

This, if correct, would debunk any infinity suggestion.

Cheers.

If there was a big bang, then there will be a big crunch. It's a theory based on certain diciplines of understanding. Now, if space was already there before the bang. Is space infinite? If it was then other big bangs have happened elsewhere and crunches too ?

And what was there before space if the bang created space?

As you said mate; paradoxes

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i do try... my Irish brother in law thought it was the Irish airline ...lol... Air lingus for those that cant remember

i recon there is a few fkn allians on here  , they all seem to talk aload of bollox   

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BLC1(breakthrough listen) is interesting,they have been searching for tech signals and found this,apparently past some tests that rule out anything we create or nature,releasing more results this year about it.It’s local ...in there terms,not just past the co-op,I did throw an ortovox receiver many moons ago into some brambles...it may still be giving off a dodgy signal...it’s out there?

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2 hours ago, Born Hunter said:

@Francie & @Greb147

Right so this is briefly why I have changed my mind. For those that accept there is likely to be many advanced alien races out there, there are commonly two arguments used as to why we haven't been visited by any of them.

  1. That the distances are too great given the speed of light is a limit to travelling these distances
  2. That they would have destroyed us with their superior technology

To those that don't accept there are likely life on other planets/systems/galaxies then there's no point in reading further. :laugh:

On 1.

This assumes that faster than light technologies are impossible for a start. I'd be hesitant to believe that. But more importantly, it seems very plausible if not inevitable that at some point a technological species transition from being purely biological to being technological. ie time is only a factor given finite lifetimes, no one wants to waste their life driving. But if a species gets around this concern either through mastering medicine or leaving their biological bodies behind entirely then suddenly time is meaningless. So what if it takes three million years to get to the next galaxy? Or five years to get to the next star system?

On 2.

The history of more advanced civilisations meeting less advanced ones is indeed a history of the advanced one dominating and essentially destroying the lesser one. But that wasn't driven by an innate desire to dominate the less advanced, it was driven by the desire to take their resources for economic or geostrategic benefit. Places with non of these were given little to no effort to bring under imperial rule. So I ask, what does this planet offer that can't be found in abundance literally everywhere else in the galaxy? The only answer is biological life! As far as we are aware that is pretty rare! Now the only value I can think that Earth would have to a vastly advanced species is an opportunity to study life. IMO the only thing of value we can offer is data to alien biologists! There's f**k all else we have to make Earth worth invading/destroying etc.

In terms of evidence, I offer none, I'd say most of it is BS. But the Nimitz incident is very curious!

you just want to become a replicator ....lol

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3 hours ago, poxon said:

I think one of my ex girlfriend’s years ago was a alien id been going out with her for a month or so one day out the blue she started on at me saying about hunting being cruel an how farm animals shouldn’t be confined it was only then I realised the bitch was from another planet an it’d be cruelty to the human race to keep on plowing such a species I dropped her like a sack of rotten spuds to go back to what planet the alien was from 

real story is you got binned by some hottie when she asked for cunnilingus ....and you replyd i hate mexican food 

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1 minute ago, Born Hunter said:

Bringing a bit of high culture to the site Tomo! I approve! :laugh:

i do try...

my Irish brother in law thought it was the Irish airline ...lol...

Air lingus for those that cant remember

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im same as greb.....i think there has to be life out there of some kind...maybe just animals or plants but surly something ...aliens visiting us.....no..

it wouldnt supprise me if life was found in our solar system....one of them moons of saturn or jupiter they now think might have liquid water....and of course mars maybe at some point in its history

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43 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

HA. I was more a fan of the Ancients. Different show but the Cylons were where it was at for me as far as tech lifeforms go.

Six  :wub:

You wanna download your consciousness into a machine?... 

I'll stick with wanting be an ancient thank you ?

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36 minutes ago, TOMO said:

im same as greb.....i think there has to be life out there of some kind...maybe just animals or plants but surly something ...aliens visiting us.....no..

it wouldnt supprise me if life was found in our solar system....one of them moons of saturn or jupiter they now think might have liquid water....and of course mars maybe at some point in its history

The main questions to get beyond are; is all life carbon based? and, Is all carbon based life dependent on oxygen.

If the answer to even one of these questions is no, then we really need to reevaluate where we look and how we perceive life.

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