What If Rabbits Could Kill You?

[NEWKID 28,687]

19 hours ago, chartpolski said:

I remember going up to Neilston Working Terrier Show with the intention of having a bit craic with Foxgun Tom, Gash and the lads, but I was roped into judging the lurcher show when the judge let them down at the last minute.

I'd never met Mik or seen his dogs, but I had no hesitation in giving Tigger Best In Show. Of course this meant nothing in working ability, but he invited me up to his permission to see his dog run, and run mine.

Sadly I never made it.

Cheers.

When I picked my bitch up from Haymin, Wilf told me to try and get out and see Tigger run (I was just around the corner)... I too couldn't make it, the whole family in tow put paid to that...but from all I've heard I do regret not seeing that dog run.

[NEWKID 28,687]

18 hours ago, W. Katchum said:

Still lots a pleasure to be had just messing around with dogs, they don’t ask have to be world beaters haha I think that’s a bit stupid, unless your the very top of your game at everything you do haha but to say lads out catching rabbits or lamping a couple times a week are wasting time Cos the dogs will never be pushed to breaking point is nuts, who actually cares about your dogs other than you? I been there an had dogs bred from the very best am no cnut that knows anything could deny it, but I get as much pleasure watching me halfx kelpie work as I did that dog, I’d rather be out side an if a dog gives me the excuse to get out more an a bit a pleasure an free meat then I’m all in haha

My old lurcher, beddy x is coming up 11 now... the big lump from Jim ain't a rabbi ting dog...but there is aggro now even on perm..

I'll get another rabbiting dog, but realise I have to limit what I do...when you've got a capable dog on the slip its hard to resist...... I still love running rabbits though, luckily. Lol

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,163]

4 hours ago, foxdropper said:

Opposite mate .You can sicken a full on type very easy but steady is just that .The head case is usually only good for small amounts for a reason ,it is spent ,beat up or both .Give me a steady type all day and night .

All very well showing off a full on type and most blokes with same arnt shy of doing that but when the night draws on and that thing is f****d but your steady type is still doing it with style ,which is the better dog ?

Not a chance . 
 

I think we wildly vary in our thoughts on a steady dog and a keen one . 
 

in my eyes a keen dog is best ran from a motor as you have dramas keeping it sane as mr Tod or his mate tommy are lit up. 
this idea of a steady free as a bird lamping thing is amazing to watch running a few swishes or going to a clapped hare. However I personally dislike steady dogs that run Charlie looking for that infamous executioners chop at the back of the neck . It’s bullocks and imho is the sign of a cowan that’s been ran doubled up. 
 

some of the best dogs I’ve owned have been arch criminals in the eyes of others . I had a bull grey dog who would take a van door off when you slowed down into the roadside and started whispering at each other . My family had a dog that was probably described as part lurcher Part terrier , along the lines of awhat the Irish lads would call a casear dog. He was for lamping and hole ending and I’m yet to see a worse dog that hasn’t been bulletted . The dog was completely game . And I judge every other thing against him . 
 

we’re going round in circles though and yes a wild dog is a liability at times . But that do or die attitude takes some serious knocking out and I for one would rather it was kept in . 
 

never confuse keeness with stupidity Either . 
 

 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,163]

5 minutes ago, sid g said:

i think if you start any dog right right put the graft in put enough in front of it you can install drive , 

No chance mate 

I totally see what your saying as in for hares alone , I like a fast dog that can run slow but for firing into whatever it has to be borderline Bronson for me  

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,163]

8 minutes ago, sid g said:

 

handy dog to have on the yard in at times  a pain in the ass but a lot of fun  from your normal steady week in week out dog , you learn a lot from owning one of these types of terriers 

Exactly pal , you can’t bred rats from mice 

[C.green 3,260]

1 hour ago, Born Hunter said:

I sometimes wonder if lads are out to kill stuff or if they just want to see a display of extreme drive/commitment.

Thats not a slight to anyone.

Personally thats why i go out. I like the sensible clever types but i do like seeing a dog thats got that drive to hang on hang in there type of thing

[Born Hunter 17,910]

19 minutes ago, C.green said:

Personally thats why i go out. I like the sensible clever types but i do like seeing a dog thats got that drive to hang on hang in there type of thing

And that's fair enough. I just don't value that 'gameness' exclusively or significantly above other traits. Any dog that displays any trait to an extreme level is nice to witness, but I want to see optimal balance ultimately. But I'm not a 'dogman', I'm a 'hunter'. They're not exclusive terms but it's the only way I can think to explain it.

I genuinely don't see what a head banging lunatic brings to anything tbh. I've seen every ounce of that drive (when it matters) in dogs that aren't liabilities or particularly hard work.

At what point do you have 'enough' and start worrying about other traits?

I just think it's a shame to get so hung up on one single trait to the point it ends a man's hunting life.

[Born Hunter 17,910]

I just think the most important thing is to remember this shit is supposed to be fun, lol. If your standards are so high or specific you'd rather pack up than settle then what a shame.

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

Show me a full on dog and I’ll sicken it ,simply put .Wonder if I’ll get any takers .

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,163]

6 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

And that's fair enough. I just don't value that 'gameness' exclusively or significantly above other traits. Any dog that displays any trait to an extreme level is nice to witness, but I want to see optimal balance ultimately. But I'm not a 'dogman', I'm a 'hunter'. They're not exclusive terms but it's the only way I can think to explain it.

I genuinely don't see what a head banging lunatic brings to anything tbh. I've seen every ounce of that drive (when it matters) in dogs that aren't liabilities or particularly hard work.

At what point do you have 'enough' and start worrying about other traits?

I just think it's a shame to get so hung up on one single trait to the point it ends a man's hunting life.

Enough to make it humane mate . 
 

The only way to describe it is would you use an air rifle to shoot a roe buck ??

[Greb147 6,810]

4 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

I just think the most important thing is to remember this shit is supposed to be fun, lol. If your standards are so high or specific you'd rather pack up than settle then what a shame.

To many it's not fun just an addiction to kill, can't be doing with screaming idiots when out lamping. 

[Squirrel_Basher 17,102]

Fac yes 

[THE STIFFMEISTER 17,163]

Just now, foxdropper said:

Show me a full on dog and I’ll sicken it ,simply put .Wonder if I’ll get any takers .

Lol 

what an offer . 
 

any dog can be sickened but if the dog don’t fancy it in the first place ( and there are enough of them ) then I’d say you off to bad start . 
 

your totally getting the wrong end of this imho 

[Greyman 31,797]

5 minutes ago, THE STIFFMEISTER said:

Enough to make it humane mate . 
 

The only way to describe it is would you use an air rifle to shoot a roe buck ??

22 or 177???

[eastcoast 4,543]

Some posts on this thread have been roughly eluding to big game hunting or as it usually now referred to as trophy hunting. As for the rights and wrongs the only right is the welfare and continuation of the species being killed for money. In some places "trophy hunting" is the only that thing keeps these species alive and provides wages for the local people. I've seen a few reports on news channels recently in African countries on the problems that have been caused due to lack of tourism because of the worldwide pandemic. Animals are being indiscriminately killed by the indigenous population as they have lost their jobs. Their jobs being in the managed conservation of big game. No people visiting to see, photograph or shoot their only natural resource, wildlife. 

As for the wrongs? At times these days I struggle squeezing the trigger on a rabbit but I am pleased that others are not as soft and still pay good money to kill large exotic animals in far off places and in the process ensure the survival of those species and significantly support the local economy.

Edited October 3, 2020 by eastcoast