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The other problem with herbicides, even natural ones,  is rotting vegatation release harmful gases and lowers the oxygen levels in the pond. Far better to remove it and use Barely Straw to prevent it from coming back.

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You have got to be joking. When badgers are allowed to proliferate as they have done any wildlife on the ground suffers. They hoover up any ground nesting birds, decimate hedgehog numbers an

I look at it like this . If you look at the size of a badger and think about how much protein an animal of that size needs to keep healthy? Anyone who keeps dogs will know how much food they need . Mu

Country side business should be carried out with out broadcasting to the world like it's allways been done, what the eye don't see the heart don't bleed over, anything the government does it tries to

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It's a load of bollocks, f**k that. I was offered as it starts here this year and I said I'd only do it if my mate really wanted me to, having experienced it first hand in the south. He thought he was maybe doing me a favour and wasn't bothered so nah. What a load of agro for a few quid a badger.

I'm sure 90% of the folks that want in on it only do for the bragging rights on their syndicate or pub/gunshop or whatever.

All that said, the early science suggests it's working very well. It's madness they have the protection that they do.

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25 minutes ago, Born Hunter said:

It's a load of bollocks, f**k that. I was offered as it starts here this year and I said I'd only do it if my mate really wanted me to, having experienced it first hand in the south. He thought he was maybe doing me a favour and wasn't bothered so nah. What a load of agro for a few quid a badger.

I'm sure 90% of the folks that want in on it only do for the bragging rights on their syndicate or pub/gunshop or whatever.

All that said, the early science suggests it's working very well. It's madness they have the protection that they do.

Nobody is doing it for the money anymore. It opens doors to new ground , or secures what you already have . 

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5 minutes ago, shovel leaner said:

Nobody is doing it for the money anymore. It opens doors to new ground , or secures what you already have . 

I'm not knocking the contractors, plenty of lads doing it for the right reasons but I've heard enough stories and seen the absolute palaver you go through for it to know I want f**k all to do with it unless it's doing a mate/landowner a favour.

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1 minute ago, Born Hunter said:

I'm not knocking the contractors, plenty of lads doing it for the right reasons but I've heard enough stories and seen the absolute palaver you go through for it to know I want f**k all to do with it unless it's doing a mate/landowner a favour.

Don’t blame you ?

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This is just my opinion but the spread of TB is the smallest part of the badger problem, what bothers me is how many of them there is around the land I shoot, they have no predators, they are extremely destructive and kill and eat anything they can. I don’t think I’d like to see them on the pest species list, but they should be managed, we manage deer, we control foxes, rabbits, pigeons, squirrels  etc, so why not badgers, for the good of the environment not just for the farmers  

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24 minutes ago, Stavross said:

This is just my opinion but the spread of TB is the smallest part of the badger problem, what bothers me is how many of them there is around the land I shoot, they have no predators, they are extremely destructive and kill and eat anything they can. I don’t think I’d like to see them on the pest species list, but they should be managed, we manage deer, we control foxes, rabbits, pigeons, squirrels  etc, so why not badgers, for the good of the environment not just for the farmers  

Very well said Stav.

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Totally agree according to a wildlife documentary on channel 5 we are Badger capital of the world. 

Mind they also pushed the lie they only eat grass n worms ,gave me an excuse to shout at the tv .

Lying baarstards. 

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On 21/06/2020 at 16:10, ianm said:

You have got to be joking.

When badgers are allowed to proliferate as they have done any wildlife on the ground suffers.

They hoover up any ground nesting birds, decimate hedgehog numbers and will kill lambs no matter what what the bunny huggers say. 

 

 

it's the same when pheasants are dumped on a patch of the countryside then alot of native wildlife will need to disappear?

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35 minutes ago, paddyluke said:

it's the same when pheasants are dumped on a patch of the countryside then alot of native wildlife will need to disappear?

Although pheasant are not native and can hoover up a large amount of natural food, if a shoot is managed properly, having the birds there in my opinion does more good than harm, I’m still feeding now, from last season, admittedly only in 2 feeders but the amount of native bird life that use these feeders is amazing and when times are lean this wouldn’t happen if the land wasn’t used for shooting, the badgers on the other hand are so abundant they are having a detrimental effect on the other wildlife, for every fox I see I will see 6 badgers, I would never want to see a British native wiped out but I also don’t want to see a countryside that only contains badgers, grey squirrels and corvids 

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1 hour ago, paddyluke said:

it's the same when pheasants are dumped on a patch of the countryside then alot of native wildlife will need to disappear?

Releasing pheasants is absolutely nothing like letting badgers breed uncontrolled.

Pheasants do not eat ground nesting birds, eggs, hedgehogs or Lambs.

The only native wildlife that needs to be controlled on pheasant shoots are fox, stoat, weasel and the none native mink.

A vast amount of native wildlife will benefit from controlling those species. This has been shown when comparing keepered ground to none keepered ground,  despite what Packham et al would have people believe.

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On three of my permission I shoot on  the amount of damage which is done on the land only is unbelievable. Last year tractor went on its side , after going over a badger set where the land collapsed 

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3 hours ago, paddyluke said:

it's the same when pheasants are dumped on a patch of the countryside then alot of native wildlife will need to disappear?

I simply cannot agree with you there matey for the reasons already given.  Badgers are hugely destructive to anything in their path and control is needed, we have so many badgers in our area it is astonishing and needs some government intervention to put some control on them.  THEY are what causes wildlife to disapear not pheasants.......

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