shaaark 10,599 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, sandymere said: A step in the right direction in Hungary. from a friend on facebook. A short update about the legalization of hare hunting with Magyar Agars in Hungary: As most of you may know, hunting with sighthounds has been prohibited in Hungary since WWII. The legislation has changed very slowly in recent years, and finally, from this year it is legal and possible to hunt hare, red fox and golden jackal with Magyar Agars under very strict rules. The first exam - in 74 years - to qualify as „agarász” ( = person who hunts with sighthounds) was held yesterday, where 16 people took the exam successfully. Two more exam opportunities are due next week. What is necessary in order to hunt with a Magyar Agar legally in Hungary: - take a state hunting exam (shooting practice and exam are not necessary) - take an additional exam to qualify to hunt with MA - with these 2 exams, the person can get a hunting permit - the dog must pass a hunting ability test (VAV) specially for MAs. There are two types of the hunting ability test. The „artificial” one is very similar to a coursing, with the dogs chasing an artificial lure in pairs. The „live hare” version is a real hunting situation, where the dogs chase live hares in their natural environment. This can only be held during the hunting season of the hare (October - December). So how does this affect the international MA community? - As the Magyar Agar is originally a hunting breed, it is hoped that the hunting ability will be taken into consideration when making decisions about breeding. - The state hunting exam, and the additional exam can only be taken by Hungarian residents. The VAV test can be taken by any MA (with pedigree or registration papers). So if you wish to try hunting with your MA in Hungary, the dog can take the artificial VAV test with you (its foreign owner), or the live hare VAV test with a Hungarian leader who is authorized to do so (has all the necessary exams). At a hunt, the dog needs to be led by an authorized person, but of course the owner can accompany him/her. Good that, sandy. Interesting to read their hare hunting season lasts October- December. Edited October 13, 2022 by shaaark 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 11,601 Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 5 hours ago, shaaark said: Good that, sandy. Interesting to read their hare hunting season lasts October- December. so they can kill a few they kick on late december january and feb 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 9,951 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 09/10/2022 at 15:35, Black neck said: It matters little in this country you only need slop slappers Ye of little faith There's more need than ever for pasture performers, and hedgerow heroes in todays climate Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,586 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 2 hours ago, low plains drifter said: Ye of little faith There's more need than ever for pasture performers, and hedgerow heroes in todays climate Peat plodders are out o fashion I'm told Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 9,951 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Black neck said: Peat plodders are out o fashion I'm told Brothel creepers are in the same boat I hear 1 Quote Link to post
low plains drifter 9,951 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 Somebody stop me! 2 Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,062 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 21:26, sandymere said: That looks like it's done a bit of something anyway. Could do with a bit of soft bedding in it's kennel maybe though? Quote Link to post
Maximus Ferret 2,062 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 On 13/10/2022 at 17:47, sandymere said: A step in the right direction in Hungary. from a friend on facebook. A short update about the legalization of hare hunting with Magyar Agars in Hungary: As most of you may know, hunting with sighthounds has been prohibited in Hungary since WWII. The legislation has changed very slowly in recent years, and finally, from this year it is legal and possible to hunt hare, red fox and golden jackal with Magyar Agars under very strict rules. The first exam - in 74 years - to qualify as „agarász” ( = person who hunts with sighthounds) was held yesterday, where 16 people took the exam successfully. Two more exam opportunities are due next week. What is necessary in order to hunt with a Magyar Agar legally in Hungary: - take a state hunting exam (shooting practice and exam are not necessary) - take an additional exam to qualify to hunt with MA - with these 2 exams, the person can get a hunting permit - the dog must pass a hunting ability test (VAV) specially for MAs. There are two types of the hunting ability test. The „artificial” one is very similar to a coursing, with the dogs chasing an artificial lure in pairs. The „live hare” version is a real hunting situation, where the dogs chase live hares in their natural environment. This can only be held during the hunting season of the hare (October - December). So how does this affect the international MA community? - As the Magyar Agar is originally a hunting breed, it is hoped that the hunting ability will be taken into consideration when making decisions about breeding. - The state hunting exam, and the additional exam can only be taken by Hungarian residents. The VAV test can be taken by any MA (with pedigree or registration papers). So if you wish to try hunting with your MA in Hungary, the dog can take the artificial VAV test with you (its foreign owner), or the live hare VAV test with a Hungarian leader who is authorized to do so (has all the necessary exams). At a hunt, the dog needs to be led by an authorized person, but of course the owner can accompany him/her. Wonder why they left January out of the season though. Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,586 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 55 minutes ago, Maximus Ferret said: Wonder why they left January out of the season though. Only hull can answer that 2 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,261 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 43 minutes ago, Maximus Ferret said: Wonder why they left January out of the season though. Although hares breed all year to a degree its based on evidence from Spain, who also stop early, by the end of January as they find hares courtship starting in by the end of January, its considered unsporting to course hares with sex on the mind in Spain. Plus its easier to support a case for hunting if you are giving a wide closed season. 4 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 11,601 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, sandymere said: Although hares breed all year to a degree its based on evidence from Spain, who also stop early, by the end of January as they find hares courtship starting in by the end of January, its considered unsporting to course hares with sex on the mind in Spain. Plus its easier to support a case for hunting if you are giving a wide closed season. similar to the men with whippets here don’t want to run em at the strongest even doubled up id worry i was doubling up before i worried they might be breeding soon how anyone can think there been sporting running doubled is a joke in it’s self Edited October 14, 2022 by mC HULL 1 Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,586 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, mC HULL said: similar to the men with whippets here don’t want to run em at the strongest even doubled up id worry i was doubling up before i worried they might be breeding soon how anyone can think there been sporting running doubled is a joke in it’s self Ffs I never expected that Quote Link to post
Gypsydog94 4,483 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, mC HULL said: similar to the men with whippets here don’t want to run em at the strongest even doubled up id worry i was doubling up before i worried they might be breeding soon how anyone can think there been sporting running doubled is a joke in it’s self Don’t you run them all year? ? Quote Link to post
mC HULL 11,601 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Black neck said: Ffs I never expected that bit a stick to the sandy and gl blacky i’m always at it Quote Link to post
mC HULL 11,601 Posted October 14, 2022 Report Share Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Gypsydog94 said: Don’t you run them all year? ? no are you mad i’ll let pups get them up from young until the first season starts after the first season they will be october until last week a febuary Quote Link to post
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