mC HULL 12,367 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 13 minutes ago, sandymere said: Mongolian tazi, a finer version of the wolf dogs I posted. salukis sandy 1 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, mC HULL said: salukis sandy A Saluki is just one of the many types of ancient sighhound spread around the world. Just as a border collie is one of the many herding types from around the world, many have genetic links and most have a recognisable look. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,367 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 Just now, sandymere said: A Saluki is just one of the many types of ancient sighhound spread around the world. Just as a border collie is one of the many herding types from around the world, many have genetic links and most have a recognisable look. there just a a saluki sandy mongolian line if you like bred to type that suited there quarry and climate 1 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,367 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 Suffice it to say that the Saluki and the Afghan contributed to the gene pools of a number of Southwest Asian breeds such as the various Tazi sighthounds and even the Mudhol Hounds found in northern India. The Greyhound is a sighthound that has always been presumed to be a primitive breed originating in the Middle East is. However, once scientists could properly analyze its genome, the centuries-hidden truth emerged. The Greyhound has an ancient heritage alright, just not quite as ancient as we had assumed. Along with several other sighthounds, the Greyhound has its genetic roots in Celtic herding dogs. The Celts introduced the Greyhound into Western Europe as they migrated out of their homeland on the steppes of Eastern Europe and Eurasia. Greyhounds and Greyhound-type dogs are common in central Europe, Spain, and the British Isles—everywhere the Celts settled. Actually, as early as 1853, John Henry Walsh, writing under the pseudonym “Stonehenge,” made a clear case for a Celtic origin for the breed in his book, “The Greyhound.” Their Celtic origin would place the Greyhound within the European wolf clade. Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,887 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Suffice it to say that the Saluki and the Afghan contributed to the gene pools of a number of Southwest Asian breeds such as the various Tazi sighthounds and even the Mudhol Hounds found in northern India. The Greyhound is a sighthound that has always been presumed to be a primitive breed originating in the Middle East is. However, once scientists could properly analyze its genome, the centuries-hidden truth emerged. The Greyhound has an ancient heritage alright, just not quite as ancient as we had assumed. Along with several other sighthounds, the Greyhound has its genetic roots in Celtic herding dogs. The Celts introduced the Greyhound into Western Europe as they migrated out of their homeland on the steppes of Eastern Europe and Eurasia. Greyhounds and Greyhound-type dogs are common in central Europe, Spain, and the British Isles—everywhere the Celts settled. Actually, as early as 1853, John Henry Walsh, writing under the pseudonym “Stonehenge,” made a clear case for a Celtic origin for the breed in his book, “The Greyhound.” Their Celtic origin would place the Greyhound within the European wolf clade. What's run off and eat the quarry in Arabic 2 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,367 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Black neck said: What's run off and eat the quarry in Arabic a wanker same as in english Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,367 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 The Society regards the word Saluki and the word Tazi as linguistic identifiers for the same hunting hound of the Middle East. The differences seen in coat, color, and degree of feathering are a combination of strain selection for a particular geographic area and coat genetics. The Saluki/Tazi has historically had two coat expressions with the smooth coat being genetically dominant. Both coat expressions occur in all populations. Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,367 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 saluki afghan been feeding man for tens of thousands a years the greyhound galgo been herding sheep and chasing quarry about for a few thousand year sandy Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,071 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, mC HULL said: The Society regards the word Saluki and the word Tazi as linguistic identifiers for the same hunting hound of the Middle East. The differences seen in coat, color, and degree of feathering are a combination of strain selection for a particular geographic area and coat genetics. The Saluki/Tazi has historically had two coat expressions with the smooth coat being genetically dominant. Both coat expressions occur in all populations. feathery looking fuckers want a bullet....very gay 4 Quote Link to post
mC HULL 12,367 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, TOMO said: feathery looking fuckers want a bullet....very gay you prefer them like the top a your head mate smooth 1 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, mC HULL said: Suffice it to say that the Saluki and the Afghan contributed to the gene pools of a number of Southwest Asian breeds such as the various Tazi sighthounds and even the Mudhol Hounds found in northern India. The Greyhound is a sighthound that has always been presumed to be a primitive breed originating in the Middle East is. However, once scientists could properly analyze its genome, the centuries-hidden truth emerged. The Greyhound has an ancient heritage alright, just not quite as ancient as we had assumed. Along with several other sighthounds, the Greyhound has its genetic roots in Celtic herding dogs. The Celts introduced the Greyhound into Western Europe as they migrated out of their homeland on the steppes of Eastern Europe and Eurasia. Greyhounds and Greyhound-type dogs are common in central Europe, Spain, and the British Isles—everywhere the Celts settled. Actually, as early as 1853, John Henry Walsh, writing under the pseudonym “Stonehenge,” made a clear case for a Celtic origin for the breed in his book, “The Greyhound.” Their Celtic origin would place the Greyhound within the European wolf clade. The greyhound and a couple of closely related breeds are unique amongst the sighthounds in having collies as their source so are relatively young compared to the ancient sighhounds. The ancestors of salukis, Tazy, sloughis and Galgos etc had no collie intermediary. But the greyhound became the fastest dog that has or will exist, a supreme athlete. As to Celtic origin? The earliest writing on coursing predates the Greyhound and Arrian, an adviser to the emperor Hadrian describes "Gauls" running hares to rules and of sighthounds in northern Spain. The Greyhound came about after Rome conquered the great majority of Celtic nations and they that we have likely to thank for the early development of the Greyhound in Britain after their invasion. They were great coursers and knew the ancient breeds from their empire further afield and likely set out to produce a coursing dog to hunt the hare's they also introduced to Britain. Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, mC HULL said: saluki afghan been feeding man for tens of thousands a years the greyhound galgo been herding sheep and chasing quarry about for a few thousand year sandy The Galgos where being used in coursing before the greyhound existed whilst the Saluki was chasing jeroboa in the deserts as it couldn't catch a hare without a falcons help Edited October 7, 2022 by sandymere 1 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 (edited) The history of the sighthounds will always be open to interpretation and subject to wishful thinking. Genetics are answering some questions but raising others. The salukis, Afghan and tazi are related then the sloughis, azawakh and Galgos form another group but the two groups aren't closely related although both ancient so likely have a different origanal root. Edited October 7, 2022 by sandymere 1 Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 A little dated but interesting read which demonstrates a little of hiw sighhounds were prior to the idea of registered breeds. Towards the end we see lots of local types, something that we lose when breeds rather than types become the focus. Contribution to the study of sighthounds in the southern Sahara WWW.AZAWAKH.FR Quote Link to post
Black neck 15,887 Posted October 7, 2022 Report Share Posted October 7, 2022 They had whippets in Papua new guinea well before any o that Quote Link to post
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