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10 minutes ago, keepdiggin said:

I'll pass it on mate cheers 

Get him to have a look at this mate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7qpUqwL9o&t=700s

 

Its not coming up for some reason but type into Youtube.....The Truth About Buying a Mclaren - A Masterclass in Bad Service

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36 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

I love listening to shit like this good man thanks for the info :thumbs:

There was a Toledo as well what was that like the big brother to the Dolomite i wonder....the Princess/Ambassador then you had the Marina/Ital i could never work out why they kept doing all that.......as for electrics i remember that Rover 7 series i think they called them Fastbacks they were big luxury cars but absolutely nothing worked they just had too much going on you,d turn the wipers on and the sunroof would open or something 😆

In the olden days Triumph and Rover were the car of the middle classes; doctors, solicitors and the like. The Toledo was a small car for their wives so they could have the Triumph brand, wooden dash and door cappings and thick, comfy seats without the 2 litre engines. I think the Toledo was 1300 and 1500 and replaced the Herald. Then the Dolomite replaced the Toledo and they did that in 1500 and 1850. They brought out a sports version called the Dolomite Sprint with overdrive on third and fourth gears. The Dolomites were lovely cars and second hand great value for money.

Once Triumph became part of the British Leyland / Rover-Triumph / Austin-Rover mergers they were marginalised as a brand. The Dolomite was replaced by the Acclaim which was a re-badged Honda and as you say; the later Rovers were also Honda based. The problem was that they were built in the Midlands so they weren't put together the same as the Jap cars. Mercedes and VW later found out to their costs when they moved production abroad. The fuzzy-wuzzies can't assemble the same parts as good as the Turkish-German workers.

I once got involved in a pursuit of a Cavalier SRi. The traffic bobbies took over with their Rover 2.7 and promptly broke down.  In the end it was the Ford 1.8 diesel dog van that won the day. Of course I didn't take the pi$$ out of them - much  😆

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15 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

In the olden days Triumph and Rover were the car of the middle classes; doctors, solicitors and the like. The Toledo was a small car for their wives so they could have the Triumph brand, wooden dash and door cappings and thick, comfy seats without the 2 litre engines. I think the Toledo was 1300 and 1500 and replaced the Herald. Then the Dolomite replaced the Toledo and they did that in 1500 and 1850. They brought out a sports version called the Dolomite Sprint with overdrive on third and fourth gears. The Dolomites were lovely cars and second hand great value for money.

Once Triumph became part of the British Leyland / Rover-Triumph / Austin-Rover mergers they were marginalised as a brand. The Dolomite was replaced by the Acclaim which was a re-badged Honda and as you say; the later Rovers were also Honda based. The problem was that they were built in the Midlands so they weren't put together the same as the Jap cars. Mercedes and VW later found out to their costs when they moved production abroad. The fuzzy-wuzzies can't assemble the same parts as good as the Turkish-German workers.

I once got involved in a pursuit of a Cavalier SRi. The traffic bobbies took over with their Rover 2.7 and promptly broke down.  In the end it was the Ford 1.8 diesel dog van that won the day. Of course I didn't take the pi$$ out of them - much  😆

My dad had the rover 213s In the early 90s and it was Honda based too, was a nice comfy car to be in they also done the 216 aswell as the vanden plas model

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2 hours ago, chartpolski said:

I had a Range Rover in Saudi, a Wood & Pickett job. It came from the Royal Mews.

A joy to drive until it went wrong ........everything was modified, the wheels were bigger, bigger discs and callipers, even bigger, braided brake hoses. Desert cooling system with dual core radiator, bigger water pump, long range fuel tank, good job I could fill it up for next to nowt, I'd guess it did about 8-10 to the gallon ! 

Heavily modified suspension and body, Recaro seats, Momo steering wheel. Weird slatted front grill.

I remember going to a specialist Range Rover dealer in Derbyshire for an exhaust and rear light lens, they insisted I needed a double exhaust until I showed them photos and they said they couldn't help me. I had to change both rear lights as the one fitted weren't standard.

It was great to go in the desert with and run the Salukis, but a pain to repair if anything went wrong.

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Cheers.

I thought the Range Rover would be an upgrade on my Scooby, but to be fair, the Subaru was a million times more reliable !

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Forgive the quality ot the pic, this was years before digital cameras, and developing the old Kodak roll was hit and miss at best, in Saudi !

Cheers.

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1 hour ago, Nicepix said:

In the olden days Triumph and Rover were the car of the middle classes; doctors, solicitors and the like. The Toledo was a small car for their wives so they could have the Triumph brand, wooden dash and door cappings and thick, comfy seats without the 2 litre engines. I think the Toledo was 1300 and 1500 and replaced the Herald. Then the Dolomite replaced the Toledo and they did that in 1500 and 1850. They brought out a sports version called the Dolomite Sprint with overdrive on third and fourth gears. The Dolomites were lovely cars and second hand great value for money.

Once Triumph became part of the British Leyland / Rover-Triumph / Austin-Rover mergers they were marginalised as a brand. The Dolomite was replaced by the Acclaim which was a re-badged Honda and as you say; the later Rovers were also Honda based. The problem was that they were built in the Midlands so they weren't put together the same as the Jap cars. Mercedes and VW later found out to their costs when they moved production abroad. The fuzzy-wuzzies can't assemble the same parts as good as the Turkish-German workers.

I once got involved in a pursuit of a Cavalier SRi. The traffic bobbies took over with their Rover 2.7 and promptly broke down.  In the end it was the Ford 1.8 diesel dog van that won the day. Of course I didn't take the pi$$ out of them - much  😆

Thats some cracking knowledge there chief fair do's the nearest i ever came to owning anything like that was borrowing a shitty old Montego for a couple of months i only remember it because every few miles i had to get out and re attach the elastic band that was holding the throttle cable on 😆

The Toledo stands out in my mind as i was sat at the lights in quite a fast car not all that long ago with a geezer in an old Toledo giving me the eye in the next lane.....i booted it away only to watch this f****n thing roar past god knows what was under the bonnet....gotta be careful of these sleepers 😆

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11 minutes ago, gnasher16 said:

Thats some cracking knowledge there chief fair do's the nearest i ever came to owning anything like that was borrowing a shitty old Montego for a couple of months i only remember it because every few miles i had to get out and re attach the elastic band that was holding the throttle cable on 😆

The Toledo stands out in my mind as i was sat at the lights in quite a fast car not all that long ago with a geezer in an old Toledo giving me the eye in the next lane.....i booted it away only to watch this f****n thing roar past god knows what was under the bonnet....gotta be careful of these sleepers 😆

My old digging mate had a Cosworth BDA (?? ) in a mk1 Escort van, opened some eyes at the lights and cost us a fortune to travel away with the dogs

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5 hours ago, Nicepix said:

The Stag was typical of British engineering and car design of the period. Triumph and Rover were arch enemies vying for the same customers. When they merged under the Rover-Triumph and Austin-Rover companies they still maintained their rivalry. When Triumph set about designing the Stag they were influenced by the American market which accounted for the majority of UK sports car sales and the Yanks would only buy V8's. So even though Triumph had a perfectly good straight 6 they needed a V8. Rover had a V8 based on an American Buick engine, but the Triumph designers wouldn't entertain having a Rover engine in 'their' car even though by then they were the same company. Spen King, the designer told the board that the Rover V8 wouldn't fit in the Stag's engine bay which is as we now know nonsense as many Stags now have it fitted. So Triumph designed their own V8 which was basically two Dolomite 1500 engines joined at the crank shaft. The engine designers however omitted to upgrade the water pump and so a 3000cc engine only got the pump from a 1500cc engine. The Stag's engine overheated and it cost them £millions in repairs and lost their reputation.As such the Stag never got the attention it deserved. Many are now fitted with Rover V8,  Ford V6 or the old Triumph 2500cc engines.

When the Stag was being designed they used an Italian designer Giovanni Michelotti. All he did allegedly was cut the body shell of a Triumph 2500 in half lengthways, then cut strips out of each half and put them back together so the car was narrower. That and a bit of tinkering  with the roof was all he did to earn his money. When the TR7 was designed Austin-Rover designed it themselves. At the launch Michelotti who had been invited walked around the car, and at the far side stood back and said; "Oh dear. They've done the same at this side too."   😂  Needless to say that it didn't receive rave reviews especially as the sloppy electrical connectors caused a load of faults including the headlights popping up when you went over a bump.

Austin-Rover never learned from their mistakes. The Ambassadeur was basically a Princess with a hatchback and when  I went to the preview of the Ital we were greeted with dramatic lighting and 'Fanfare for the Common Man' music, dry ice smoke and then the cover was lifted off to reveal another bloody Marina with the corners squared off. 🤬

Trying to sell Austin-Rovers in the period when Ford had the Escort and Cortina and Vauxhall had the Cavalier wasn't easy. The Japs were making inroads too as well as the Germans with their front wheel drive cars. The Metro saved the company for a while but they let it slip again and went to the wall. What typifies cars of that period for me was when they launched the Mini Mayfair. It had a radio located above the passenger foot well where the driver couldn't reach it and a single speaker on the rear parcel shelf where you couldn't hear it for the engine noise and that was their premium Mini.

When the japs first started importing Datsun my aunts used to trade in for a new one each year and make a profit, something to do with the import costs, they also had a radio and seat belts that were optional extras on the fords and now look at us 95% percent of motors running round with shite french lumps under the bonnet and no soul or character, much like the people who like them 😂

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20yrs ago when I first met the wife.

I had an white ragtop xr3i.and was working in Oxford.living in a caravan muck shifting.

She spent the week with me.

Saturday evening driving from Oxford to Shropshire.to her mams house.

On the m6 flat out 126mph that was it no more power near the red line.

A Mercedes sprinter van was behind me flashing the lights

I pulled into the middle lane and he sailed past looked like a right knob in front of the missus 😂😂 a fecking van dropped me lol.

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13 minutes ago, king said:

20yrs ago when I first met the wife.

I had an white ragtop xr3i.and was working in Oxford.living in a caravan muck shifting.

She spent the week with me.

Saturday evening driving from Oxford to Shropshire.to her mams house.

On the m6 flat out 126mph that was it no more power near the red line.

A Mercedes sprinter van was behind me flashing the lights

I pulled into the middle lane and he sailed past looked like a right knob in front of the missus 😂😂 a fecking van dropped me lol.

They may have been me trying to pack 3 days work into 1 because I’m a greedy b*****d ! Lol 

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27 minutes ago, WILF said:

They may have been me trying to pack 3 days work into 1 because I’m a greedy b*****d ! Lol 

I hope not lol.

I felt like a right knob.

Spent days telling the wife the car was a beast 😂

Only to be past by a van 😂

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3 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

Thats some cracking knowledge there chief fair do's the nearest i ever came to owning anything like that was borrowing a shitty old Montego for a couple of months i only remember it because every few miles i had to get out and re attach the elastic band that was holding the throttle cable on 😆

The Toledo stands out in my mind as i was sat at the lights in quite a fast car not all that long ago with a geezer in an old Toledo giving me the eye in the next lane.....i booted it away only to watch this f****n thing roar past god knows what was under the bonnet....gotta be careful of these sleepers 😆

There’s a fella on YouTube who bought an old 80s volvo, looks clapped out, he stuck a 6 litre truck engine in it and an eBay turbo kit on it, it blows the doors off lambos and corvettes, fecking Granda mobile kicking ass

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5 hours ago, gnasher16 said:

Thats some cracking knowledge there chief fair do's the nearest i ever came to owning anything like that was borrowing a shitty old Montego for a couple of months i only remember it because every few miles i had to get out and re attach the elastic band that was holding the throttle cable on 😆

The Toledo stands out in my mind as i was sat at the lights in quite a fast car not all that long ago with a geezer in an old Toledo giving me the eye in the next lane.....i booted it away only to watch this f****n thing roar past god knows what was under the bonnet....gotta be careful of these sleepers 😆

One or two people have pulled alongside our motorhome at traffic lights intending to get to the single carriageway first and failed. That five cylinder turbocharged Merc' leaves the Renaults and Peugeots standing 😀 

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The 6 pot nissan laurels were good for bangers,our track had relatively short straights so quick out the corners.another was the 2.3 v6 cortina.very rare nowadays i expect.most were 1600cc or 2000cc.

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