Child Poverty

[jackthelad 2,083]

18 hours ago, Qbgrey said:

Thats it mate,i been holding on for years,not going down the forienger route,all i want is a yound english lad to walk up and say.",im here,show me what to do,ill be reliable,help you out,im young but willing to learn."? And ill say great i teach you brickwork,but in the meantime heres 600 pound a week.....。where are they????

done it with my youngest brother mate with the dry stone walling 5 ton a week cash in hand  3 month he lasted learnt feck all got his head stuck in an x box now had loada young lads out with us none worth a toffy 

[sandymere 8,263]

1 hour ago, Greyman said:

I saw Adolfo hitler gave himself 10/10 after ww2 are you intelligent enough to work out he was fibbing , anyways I have nothing more to say to you as I learn nothing,  gain nothing, you bring out the worst in me and raise my blood pressure, so f**k right off

I thought he died before the end of the war so did well to score himself 10/10 after it or is that another of your conspiracy theories ........mind don't think they were scoring rather counting . But don't worry i don't expect you to learn anything from me, it would cause you to much cognitive dissonance which is why you find it all so difficult.

As to raising your blood pressure, sorry i just don't swing that way.

 

[Nicepix 5,650]

3 hours ago, Greyman said:

Stop trying to spread your shit and lies, the source of the graph you’ve put up is written at the bottom, you disappeared after Corbin lost and brexit won had nothing to say now like the rest of your limp wristed mates you are trying to get it brought back while the world is distracted, YOU AND THE EU LOST accept it and move on if you can 

That graph does not show the whole picture.

The graph does not show how much the UK consumers contributed to the EU via VAT and Import Duties because the EU do not recognise those incomes as a tax. What people do not realise because the EU hide it is that the UK pays 0.3% of all VAT revenue to the EU and 80% of all import duties levied on goods brought from outside the EU to be sold in the UK.

Because the UK is a major consumer the amount of import duties attributed to UK sales is enormous, estimated along with the VAT contribution as around €30 billion. And it is all paid for by UK consumers and goes under the public's radar.

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/facts-figures/customs-duties-mean-revenue_en

[sandymere 8,263]

44 minutes ago, Nicepix said:

That graph does not show the whole picture.

The graph does not show how much the UK consumers contributed to the EU via VAT and Import Duties because the EU do not recognise those incomes as a tax. What people do not realise because the EU hide it is that the UK pays 0.3% of all VAT revenue to the EU and 80% of all import duties levied on goods brought from outside the EU to be sold in the UK.

Because the UK is a major consumer the amount of import duties attributed to UK sales is enormous, estimated along with the VAT contribution as around €30 billion. And it is all paid for by UK consumers and goes under the public's radar.

https://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/facts-figures/customs-duties-mean-revenue_en

All member states pay the same so yes it does show, other than the odd variance such as Germany paying 0.15% rather than 0.3% on total vat income... Germany is also a major consumer. 

1. Traditional resources

Member states give 75% of customs, agriculture, sugar and isoglucose levies to the EU. The remaining 25% are then kept to cover the costs of administration.

2. VAT-based resources

Member States contribute a standardised 0.3% of their total VAT income. However, there are exceptions to the rate for Austria (0.225%), Germany (0.15%), Sweden and the Netherlands (both 0.10%).

3. GNI-based resources

Member States also a standard percentage of their Gross National Income (GNI). It basically counts all income earned by UK residents regardless of where it was earned. Member States’ GNI-based contributions cover the remainder of the EU budget, up to a cap of 1.24%.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/economy/governmentpublicsectorandtaxes/publicspending/articles/howdoestheukcontributetotheeubudget/2015-06-26

 

Edited April 17, 2020 by sandymere

[sandymere 8,263]

3 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Neither does he

Simples....

[sandymere 8,263]

10 minutes ago, Rusty_terrier said:

Fucknose what any of this means. 

Germany earn more than us, can afford to pay more tax etc than us, have better quality of life, by standard measures, than us, copied our NHS then did it better than us, basically they won the war....................... 

Edited April 17, 2020 by sandymere

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

Germany may be the biggest contributer financially to the European but also the biggest winner out of the European process of controls and trade legislation etc 

[sandymere 8,263]

1 hour ago, staffs riffraff said:

Germany may be the biggest contributer financially to the European but also the biggest winner out of the European process of controls and trade legislation etc 

Get out what you put in, they just do better than us, just look at the Corona virus, they are handling it we are dying in droves. 

[DIDO.1 22,857]

26 minutes ago, sandymere said:

Get out what you put in, they just do better than us, just look at the Corona virus, they are handling it we are dying in droves. 

Are we though. All the hospitals I speak to are saying they are coping. I think we are dealing with it well all things considered 

[Nicepix 5,650]

4 hours ago, staffs riffraff said:

Germany may be the biggest contributer financially to the European but also the biggest winner out of the European process of controls and trade legislation etc 

That's right. The way the EU work is to recruit poor countries who historically have traded with countries outside the EU. Cyprus used to buy grey import cars from Japan, Bulgaria and others got their tractors from Russia and their fruit and veg from Nth Africa. Once in the EU they have to buy from EU suppliers because customs duties make non-EU goods more expensive. So they buy their cars and tractors from Germany and France. Germany is the biggest industrial nation in the EU and makes everything from domestic appliances to coaches and trains so every €1 they put into the EU  comes back to them in trade.

Also the Euro works against poor countries and for rich countries because the rich countries can borrow at reduced rates because they are a lower risk. The worse a country's economy is, the harder it is for the to borrow to get out of recession. Greeks call the € the German Cage. It is the reason why Italy cannot trade its way out of trouble. If they still had the Lira they could devalue it and trade their way to prosperity.

Germany is the biggest beneficiary of the EU and receives far more than it pays in even though it doesn't look like that based on pure stats. 

[Greyman 31,300]

14 hours ago, sandymere said:

Get out what you put in, they just do better than us, just look at the Corona virus, they are handling it we are dying in droves. 

Well go and live with your beloved Germans, you are everything wrong with this country, a disgusting sell out, who just wants to talk his own country down, no one is making you stay and from your imput most would be better off without you

[DIDO.1 22,857]

My own personal take on the child poverty, and I understand I am looking at it through my own narrow experiences and I'm not saying I'm correct. 

Growing up we would be classed as poor. We didn't have a car and i only ever remember going on holiday twice. Once to Spain for a week in a friend's apartment and once to Devon in a friend's caravan. I won't go on and on about how hard it was because it wasn't. We eat well, I had a wonderful upbringing and I was surrounded by morals and a good attitude. My dad would finish work then help in his friends butchers bringing home all the cheap cuts as wages and we had a healthy diet. We had free rail travel till we were 18 as my dad had worked for British rail all his life until being made redundant so we spent every weekend travelling round Britain, spending nothing but learning and experiencing. 

Today so many kids are being brought up by parents that should have been sterilised, that's the issue. My sister was a single mum, lived in a council house and lived on benefits. How come her daughter got fed and looked after? Because there was no smoking, no flat screen, no drugs and no fckin staffie to feed. 

When an area goes down hill how come there is an explosion of takeaways? Because they are feeding themselves and their kids shite cos they are lazy and ignorant. Go to Bury or Bolton Market Saturday afternoon and you will struggle to carry £30's worth of fish, meat and veg home. That's why these markets are full of Asians and Africans! They aren't complaining about poverty, they know this is the land of bread and honey. They are boiling a sheeps head up with rice and fresh veg and feeding 12 poxy kids for 15p per portion! It's the reason half the world wants to come here! 

Similarly comments saying nobody should be homeless. Have you ever worked with the homeless? It's the most frustrating thing ever. They can't be helped until they want help, and most don't. Just like drug addicts and alcoholics, throwing money at it isn't the answer. 

Society wants everything given to them. When people first started panic buying a few weeks back I went to the supermarket and stood looking at the empty bread shelves, people were beside themselves with it all taking photos....yet....turn 180 degrees to the supermarket bakery and there was loads of unsliced loaves and wholemeal bread. They were fighting over the last box of fish fingers while the fishmonger was twiddling his thumbs on the fish counter with a stall full of fresh seafood. It's not the government's fault....its society that wants fckin spoonfeeding! 

Edited April 18, 2020 by DIDO.1

[Qbgrey 4,260]

Dido 1,spot on.alot of these mums could,nt look after a fuking teddy bear,let alone 3 kids.cook nothing,exempt tin beans,fish finger,pizza,very embarrassing.in our childhood mums cooked food cheaply,lamb heart stew,mince meat,peas,n mash,toad in the hole,bread n butter pudding,rabbit,hare stew.etc,etc,cause it was cheap and good for you.if you did,nt eat your greens you got no more.show a young kid a brussel,or a carrot and they run away.

[DIDO.1 22,857]

31 minutes ago, Qbgrey said:

Dido 1,spot on.alot of these mums could,nt look after a fuking teddy bear,let alone 3 kids.cook nothing,exempt tin beans,fish finger,pizza,very embarrassing.in our childhood mums cooked food cheaply,lamb heart stew,mince meat,peas,n mash,toad in the hole,bread n butter pudding,rabbit,hare stew.etc,etc,cause it was cheap and good for you.if you did,nt eat your greens you got no more.show a young kid a brussel,or a carrot and they run away.

If you gave some of these skint parents a pile of rabbits /pheasants and a load of veg they would run a mile. I know it takes a bit of knowledge to do but even if you showed em they would let their kids starve before engaging 

[Arry 24,631]

22 hours ago, sandymere said:

Germany earn more than us, can afford to pay more tax etc than us, have better quality of life, by standard measures, than us, copied our NHS then did it better than us, basically they won the war....................... 

Yea and Douglas Hurd secretly let off Germany 3.6 Trillion pounds war debt. We set them up again after the war was over, flew in food to keep West Berlin alive. Maybe if they paid their debt off for the Second World War ( I don't think they paid their debt off for the First World War as well) we could afford a lot more.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/964141/germany-germans-reparations-brexit-war-cash-marshall-plan-daniel-kawczynski

Cheers Arry