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Lad I trained Jiu jitsu with

one of the nicest lads in the world

good looking incredibly talented artist

took jiu jitsu belt and hung himself of the bannisters 

never got my head around that one

still haunts me to this day

if you understood why people did it you’d be doing it yourself

 

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38 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Suicide was a huge thing in South Wales when I stayed there an my family reckon it only got worse I’m past 10 year or so, all youngsters as well, what a fcuking bleak out look on life you must have todo it.

 

years back when In yo’s in Swansea I saw a few folk try it, but one lad, a big tall skinny poofy as fcuk lad who’s  surname was kelly, still haunts my dreams a little,  was in next cell an the lad was havin a tough time, lots lads were ripping him for being openly gay am camp as fcuk but he was your typical faggot always over reacting an making a mountain out a mole hill, any ways one night I hear the buzzer an screws goin mad to get the keys to his cell, lad hung himself an had tied his own feet to his neck as well ffs so he couldn’t put them down to save himself, I’ll never forget the look on the lads face all swollen up an blue as they tried to save him on the landing( I’m 90%sure they did an he cut his own wrists further into sentance)

 

thing that stuck with me all these years later tho ain’t the look on Kelly’s face, or colour or anything like that, it was the reaction of the poor screws that had to deal with him, saw couple a grown hard ex military screws cry like babies that night, an that was for a stranger who was a criminal, just imagine how much that lads own family would have felt if they found him, or one them screws found somebody that really meant summat to em, spoke to the screws about it an they offered a load of us lads therapy an even went to it themselves. But my point is, if that lad had looked out my door that night an saw the way thrm guys fought to save him an how much it affected them then I doubt he would have tried it a second time, suicide is a cnut, everybody but the person commiting suicide can see that, so the mind must be seriously gone for them not see it imo

Seeing such a thing can no doubt put the toughest of lads into some kind of shock. That image will stay with you forever now.

And that hanging epidemic it seemed like in s.wales was very strange.

I think it was over 20 towards 30 teenagers who done it.

They never sussed it out.some were saying some kind of cult type thing if I remember right.

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3 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Self harming is a big thing here for teens just now🤯 an it’s all kids you’d never think off, popular kids from decent family’s ffs it’s as tho coming out closet and self harming are in fashion just now up here ☹️

I know you don't know, or have the answer, none of us do, but in your own opinion  why do you think this is happening. 

It would make you worry if you have young kids.

Atb j 

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5 minutes ago, king said:

Seeing such a thing can no doubt put the toughest of lads into some kind of shock. That image will stay with you forever now.

And that hanging epidemic it seemed like in s.wales was very strange.

I think it was over 20 towards 30 teenagers who done it.

They never sussed it out.some were saying some kind of cult type thing if I remember right.

Know a few at done it from port Talbot before folk noticed it was becoming quite common, think they made w film about it, my ma told me about it an I tried to watch it, but truth be told it was as depressing as life in some Them valleys an caught the mood perfectly an I couldn’t watch it all☹️
 

I have heard a few theories on why they done it an the cult thing is mentioned a lot it I think it was for a small bit a fame as the first few I knew of become a bit of a cult hero, folk always talking about them an that 🤯

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7 minutes ago, jetro said:

Young lad here 21 new year eve, in his sister's house hung himself in the bathroom, with his tie off the window. He was a great young lad, good job, plenty of money.  No one could ever figure out why he did it. Such a shame young people or anyone can't feel they can reach out for help.

There's such a stigma with mental health that's it's shameful. It's an illness just like another.

For you to carry that with you all these years, it made a powerful impact on you.

Puts things into perspective,.

Atb j 

Real shame especially such a young age n like you say if only he'd of got some help or atleast tried, a lot of people luckily can get better I do think tho depending on the situation and what they've been through or going through that some people just can't be helped or get out that hole and they know it.

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Recently lost a mate to suicide, he was with me all day the day before and never showed no signs that he was suicidal, I’ll be honest I’ve not been the same since and i don’t think I ever will be again, I keep thinking I should of noticed but I honestly had no idea he was feeling so low, nobody knows what’s going on in people’s minds, he was a strong lad but obviously something had got to him, I still can’t believe he’s gone, it’s like I’ve been living in a nightmare since it happened, i wish I’d known how low he was feeling I’d of stayed with him, I cry every other day thinking about it, and have sort of distanced myself from everyone, i was one the first on the scene, he’d shot himself in the head, i then had to tell he’s brother one of my best mates, I’ve not spoken to anybody about it, I’ve been there for his family and tried staying strong for them and it’s  been hard, reading this thread it’s the first time I’ve spoke about it, suicide is a horrible thing, just wish he’d told us how he was feeling, feel like writing a bit more but can’t so gonna leave it there, At 

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1 minute ago, All-terrain said:

Recently lost a mate to suicide, he was with me all day the day before and never showed no signs that he was suicidal, I’ll be honest I’ve not been the same since and i don’t think I ever will be again, I keep thinking I should of noticed but I honestly had no idea he was feeling so low, nobody knows what’s going on in people’s minds, he was a strong lad but obviously something had got to him, I still can’t believe he’s gone, it’s like I’ve been living in a nightmare since it happened, i wish I’d known how low he was feeling I’d of stayed with him, I cry every other day thinking about it, and have sort of distanced myself from everyone, i was one the first on the scene, he’d shot himself in the head, i then had to tell he’s brother one of my best mates, I’ve not spoken to anybody about it, I’ve been there for his family and tried staying strong for them and it’s  been hard, reading this thread it’s the first time I’ve spoke about it, suicide is a horrible thing, just wish he’d told us how he was feeling, feel like writing a bit more but can’t so gonna leave it there, At 

Talk to someody pal, you know where I am anytime, but sometimes a stranger is better, offload tho👍

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5 minutes ago, All-terrain said:

Recently lost a mate to suicide, he was with me all day the day before and never showed no signs that he was suicidal, I’ll be honest I’ve not been the same since and i don’t think I ever will be again, I keep thinking I should of noticed but I honestly had no idea he was feeling so low, nobody knows what’s going on in people’s minds, he was a strong lad but obviously something had got to him, I still can’t believe he’s gone, it’s like I’ve been living in a nightmare since it happened, i wish I’d known how low he was feeling I’d of stayed with him, I cry every other day thinking about it, and have sort of distanced myself from everyone, i was one the first on the scene, he’d shot himself in the head, i then had to tell he’s brother one of my best mates, I’ve not spoken to anybody about it, I’ve been there for his family and tried staying strong for them and it’s  been hard, reading this thread it’s the first time I’ve spoke about it, suicide is a horrible thing, just wish he’d told us how he was feeling, feel like writing a bit more but can’t so gonna leave it there, At 

Sorry for the loss of you friend At.

You weren't to know, a lot of these people never show signs of it.

As w.k said, talk to some one, don't hold it in. 

Atb j 

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6 minutes ago, W. Katchum said:

Know a few at done it from port Talbot before folk noticed it was becoming quite common, think they made w film about it, my ma told me about it an I tried to watch it, but truth be told it was as depressing as life in some Them valleys an caught the mood perfectly an I couldn’t watch it all☹️
 

I have heard a few theories on why they done it an the cult thing is mentioned a lot it I think it was for a small bit a fame as the first few I knew of become a bit of a cult hero, folk always talking about them an that 🤯

I love Wales and am proud to be Welsh.

But I've got to 100% agree.

Them valleys are very bleak.the only reason they are there is because of the coal mines.now all that is gone and the valleys are like ghost towns.

I'm glad to leave the place.no jobs no feck all.depressing place to be in some of them valleys..

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6 minutes ago, All-terrain said:

Recently lost a mate to suicide, he was with me all day the day before and never showed no signs that he was suicidal, I’ll be honest I’ve not been the same since and i don’t think I ever will be again, I keep thinking I should of noticed but I honestly had no idea he was feeling so low, nobody knows what’s going on in people’s minds, he was a strong lad but obviously something had got to him, I still can’t believe he’s gone, it’s like I’ve been living in a nightmare since it happened, i wish I’d known how low he was feeling I’d of stayed with him, I cry every other day thinking about it, and have sort of distanced myself from everyone, i was one the first on the scene, he’d shot himself in the head, i then had to tell he’s brother one of my best mates, I’ve not spoken to anybody about it, I’ve been there for his family and tried staying strong for them and it’s  been hard, reading this thread it’s the first time I’ve spoke about it, suicide is a horrible thing, just wish he’d told us how he was feeling, feel like writing a bit more but can’t so gonna leave it there, At 

I know that feeling mate,i had the nightmares .fukin seem real life and can really mess up your normal sleep pattern ,its not good and can turn you into a aggressive,or drinking problem

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There are blokes my age living in the village I am from that have never been out of wales ... I doubt if they’ve ever even left the valley ......

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1 minute ago, king said:

I love Wales and am proud to be Welsh.

But I've got to 100% agree.

Them valleys are very bleak.the only reason they are there is because of the coal mines.now all that is gone and the valleys are like ghost towns.

I'm glad to leave the place.no jobs no feck all.depressing place to be in some of them valleys..

Do you think because of it bleakness, it a cause of suicide amoung some people.

Atb j

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2 minutes ago, king said:

I love Wales and am proud to be Welsh.

But I've got to 100% agree.

Them valleys are very bleak.the only reason they are there is because of the coal mines.now all that is gone and the valleys are like ghost towns.

I'm glad to leave the place.no jobs no feck all.depressing place to be in some of them valleys..

Some my happiest days were spent in Glasgow an port tablot, but I wouldn’t take my kids back to either to live, not for live nor money. 👍

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1 minute ago, jetro said:

Do you think because of it bleakness, it a cause of suicide amoung some people.

Atb j

It’s a real easy place to end up thinking you no future pal

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I think it in the genes,because some people with depression have got everthing,cars,money,fancy homes,holidays away,basically a champagne lifestyle,....but when the black dogs comes calling,,,,,,,,,,,thats it your fukkkked

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